"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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she stopped taking sexual advances serious

returningchamp

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Girl i've been having sex with for a few months...

At first we'd text each other very steamy text messages... and a lot of messages from her were like "i can't wait until you get over here and [explicit sexual comment]...."

Lately - i've been making sexual comments to her, and instead of getting it back.... i'll get something like "haha ok".... and that's what she does now... whenever i say something sexual she treats it like im JOKING!

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this doesn't occur in person. only if we're talking on the phone or texting. im very bored texting her now because she isn't sexual anymore through it.

i guess next she'll stop getting turned on when we talk in person (hasn't happened yet)... and then after that - she'll stop getting turned on for sex...

blah.... i was enjoying having a sexual relationship with someone who seemed as into sex as me too...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Eating the same food everyday gets boring. Getting the same text messages gets boring even if its about sex.
 

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Stop doing it! She obviously doesn't appreciate it any longer and is only mildly amused by it. If it's not turning her on anymore - it's not turning her on anymore. You don't want her to realize that ANYTHING you're doing is failing to turn her on.

Sex talk has a place - but constantly laying it on - will only work for so long.

Now...
Here's The reality of this: This was probably a big part of your guys early relationship. If this relationship is a mostly sexual one - she SHOULD be very into anything that involves sex with you. Since she is not - i'd say you don't have much time left with her. The small things tend to fade first when a relationship is dieing; and without the prescence of a lot of those small things - relationships will collapse pretty easy. Not only because it has become routine to her and therefore unexciting. But also because you notice her losing insterest in such things, and begin to OVERDUE it to get her involved in it again. Which her refusal to - leads to resentment by you. Which in return - makes you less fun to be around (because you're bent out of shape).
 

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so you guys both just think i should give it up? not talk dirty to her anymore? that's pretty boring.... yeah, it's not as exciting to tell someone you want to rock their world once you've rocked their world a few hundred times, but come on! there has to be some better advice out there than just to give it up on it????

and it's not the same every time...

a couple days ago i said : I need a massage
and she said: what kind of massage?
and i said: I need your teeth to massage my shoulder (referencing the fact that she bites me when she's losing control.)
and this girl responded back with: ugh, should have known
me: should have known? ugh? who are you and what have you done with [her name]?

to which she did not respond.

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then today i said: i just heard this usher song on the radio. sounds exactly like us having sex. it was crazy how accurate it was.
her response: oh


oh? fvcking oh????

should i ask her why she's suddenly being disinterested in anything that involves sexual talk???? make fun of her for being a prude???

if i showed texts from even a month ago - there was so much more there!
 

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Stop texting her completely. Communicate less and maybe fuck her less often. Spice up the sex. Do it somewhere where you can be seen by other people. Public restrooms/the movies/use you imagination. Spice it up ASAP!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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returningchamp said:
so you guys both just think i should give it up? not talk dirty to her anymore? that's pretty boring.... yeah, it's not as exciting to tell someone you want to rock their world once you've rocked their world a few hundred times, but come on! there has to be some better advice out there than just to give it up on it????
Yes, give up text messaging, and start to spin other plates (i hate that term, but it's true here). This is growing disinterest on her part. The text you posted only confirmed what i was saying. If she was really THAT interested in you - you wouldn't have got such bland responses to those texts. I could critique what you said to her - but there's no need to - it wouldn't matter what it was - she's obviously losing interest in you sexually.


returningchamp said:
should i ask her why she's suddenly being disinterested in anything that involves sexual talk????
No! this will only bring it to her attention that she's doing it and it's getting to you. Just stop doing it.


returningchamp said:
make fun of her for being a prude???
This is something that's effective IF she has high interest and is trying to impress you by showing you she's not a prude. You've obviously found out she's not since she's having a sexual relation with you. She should see right through you, and this'll give her an oppurtunity to get defensive and deny that she's acting any different.


returningchamp said:
if i showed texts from even a month ago - there was so much more there!
and there isn't much there anymore.... pull back... pickup stakes and pitch your tent elsewhere....

the water's ran dry...

fvck her... stay off the phone with her... stay off the texting with her.... she'll either find it easier to end it with you... or come crawling back begging for your dirty mouth.... either way - continuing to just send her text messages like that to try to reignite the spark - - - is dumb.
 

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she probably thinks that you ONLY want her for sex now. And no matter how much they know that's true. They don't like it thrown in their face. Constantly talking about sex says that's all shes good for to you. It's slightly desperate sounding as well if you really think about it. This is why you don't call and text girls constantly. You have to give them gift of missing you. Sex talk is like sex....you have to build up to it. Your just jumping in with no foreplay over and over and she's tired of it.


Stop texting her. Stop calling her. Like the other guy said. Go meet some other women. Let her miss you and wonder about you. Be COOL when you talk to her, not HORNY. Cool dudes get laid, horny dudes get may get laid, but I would guess not as much. Nobody likes a horndog. What would james bond do? You dig? Good luck.
 

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Nobody likes a horndog. What would james bond do? You dig
James Bond isn't a horndog?
 

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thanks all.

we had plans to hang out today for about a week now. im going to follow through with those and then drastically cut down on my contact with her.

and the people were right who said this was only the start. she has now stopped responding to texts almost completely. im assuming she's losing interest and fast... i guess being in the same place in our relations for a few months without any progression forward is weighing on her?

anyway, will be out after today.
 

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Are you sure you guys still have plans for the today? I'd say her flaking seems like a sure thing here...

If she's becoming that uninterested in you that fast, something has happened. I don't like to jump to this conclusion but.... i'd bet it's another man. Perhaps a guy she's getting serious with, and maybe feeling guilty about continuing to see you.

Pure speculation, but is based on experience with having sex friends.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Funny you should say that.

She was supposed to be here an hour ago and isn't. no text, call, nothing.

I'm baffled by how quickly this all went down hill. looking back - i did a lot of things wrong (#1 - always being available) but everything was going fine. So i said "f the rules". i guess they're "rules" for a reason though.

I don't know if there's another guy or not - we don't really talk about those things. But, it doesn't matter.

On to the next one.
 
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