she says she wants to be friends first??

[Badmannaz]

WTF?? why do girls find the need to wanna be friends with you 1st and then wanna get to do something else...when a girl says that kinda **** to me i immediatley start thinking the LJBF....but then you threaten to just f*kin leave and then they start saying "no!! i really like you!!"

i got this girl right now and she's a hb7 with a killer personality and smile so n my mind that makes her n hb8.5 (and killer body) but she talks all mushy to me but the chick has yet to let me f*ckin kiss her!!! WTF?!! she's been with one other dude...that's it...she acts like she really likes me but when it comes to the whole intimate side she get's really immature almost as if she's a little scared...but i'm losing feelings for her by the second...im on a girl who's much hotter (less body though) hopefully sh&t works out to my advantage although im getting sick of this Sh*t...why do we always have to wait on these b*tches to act right!!!

im saving myself from the LJBF...if she pulls that **** im done....no but why do girls f*kin wanna b your friend. 1st??? its like they put you n a position were you could stay there if you f*ck up if you say something wrong...

 

[penkitten]

good grief. we grow up constantly being told that "good girls are friends with the guy first and then date him and then start the more serious relationship." it is also pounded in our heads that "good guys only want good girls for keeps and anything less will end up a fling."
perhaps you heard of the free milk and a cow?

sounds like she said that to leave a good impression, and it sounds like it worked.



those blasted good girls

 

[Chemistry]

Girls operate on a 3 second rule... they decide within 3 seconds of seeing you, whether you're someone they'd consider fvckin...

Within 3 seconds of seeing you this girl placed you firmly in the friends category

 

[AngelusPUA]

FRIENDS ZONE FRIENDS ZONE FRIENDS ZONE FRIENDS ZONE FRIENDS ZONE FRIENDS ZONE

Come-on man don't blame it on the girl it your fault for putting yourself it that situation.

 

[d9930380]

Not neccessarily. Good girls or girls who have been used do this because they're worried that you might be a player.

But seriously - At the end of the day no-one can force you to do anything. If you don't want to just be friends first then don't and tell her that. If she is seriously considering you as a bf and isn't just an attention ***** she will take the chance. If she doesn't take the chance then it indicates that she never REALLY liked you that way as she wouldn't be willing to loose you by not taking that chance.

I think most guys are just scared to take that chance.

 

[d9930380]

Ashley Chuckles - We ALL operate on the 3 second rule.

 

[vp171s]

Anybody who believes the 3 second rule is ignorant of themselves.

No normal girl thinks "ok he's **** material" in the first 3 seconds. In fact girls can't even understand their own emotions for the most part. (A good example is their love for Johnny Depp) All that we can claim is if she's interested after the first three seconds.

People really need to comprehend that there is more that goes on then just pure lust. I don't know if I've ever gotten lust in 3 seconds.

Oh and your whole "I want to be friends first" crap. You have two choices:
1) This one starts on an N...NEXT her
2) If you think she's afraid of being hurt, then you can reassure her by taking it slow, like getting a kiss out of her. If you can't even get a kiss I think she's yanking your pal.

 

[Fash]

Girls operate on a 3 second rule... they decide within 3 seconds of seeing you, whether you're someone they'd consider fvckin...

Within 3 seconds of seeing you this girl placed you firmly in the friends category

OH MY GOD!

Do you really believe in that crap??? This is another perfect example of another AFC giving AFC advice on this forum.


Badmannaz,

I have always said it and I'll say it again. Women are stupid. Most of them are emotionaly unstable and can not, I repeat CAN NOT make up their mind when it comes to most things. I mean you ever been out shopping with a woman???

If you ever look at the returns queue at any store, they are all women! what does that tell you about the decision making abilities???

Now... remember... this chick is stupid and can be VERY EASILY manipulated and controlled. Now you have been here long enough to know how to do that. Just stick to the rules. Dont let it become a oneitis. Go down the kino line, the push pull scenario. Make her understand that you are not affraid of losing her... bla.... bla.... bla....

Some may disagree with the "manipulation" or "controlling" comment... but lets face it... sometimes some of these stupid women we meet need a gentle "nudge" in the right direction because they simply do know know what they want. So we are forced to make their decisions for them.

 

[Chemistry]

I know... just in the context of this thread it was only relevant to explain that girls do also...

But seriously, some of these other posts.... you're not understanding

I'm not talking about whether she wants rip your clothes off and fvck you silly, I'm talking she decides whether she wants to get to know you more in a capacity other than friends... does she find you attractive, and do you intrigue her? In that situation, the 'friends' label never comes up, you just have talk, exchange numbers, call and then date... of course, if she's a good girl she's not going to put out on day one, but she'll have it fully in her mind that you're not just a 'friend'

Its funny, and highly relevant because I just had this discussion with my current girl yesterday... she told me that within 3 seconds of meeting me she knew that she wanted to get to know me more, there was just something that intrigued her... and this girl is a good catholic girl... I'm talking V until she was 24, and regular at the church, so don't try to tell me it's a rule that doesn't apply to 'good girls' because 'good girls' have sexual needs and urges too...

 

[Chemistry]

OH MY GOD!

Do you really believe in that crap??? This is another perfect example of another AFC giving AFC advice on this forum.

LOL...


Good luck... I'd suggest you get to reading and experiencing women a lot more before trying to sh!t on my post... you'll have the realisation one day, it's just awfully late given that you're already 24

You see, I'm not talking hypothetically... I'm talking from experience, and I've just thrown in the most recent example of it in the above post... I honestly can't see how you're going to disprove a point which has been validated by a number of women that I've had successes with who have told me that they used the 3 second rule... if you're recounting theory, then it can easily be disputed because it's just theory, but unlike most people on this forum who still quote their 'pick-up manuals' I've that all behind me and I'm talking from experience...

 

[Fash]

Its funny, and highly relevant because I just had this discussion with my current girl yesterday... she told me that within 3 seconds of meeting me she knew that she wanted to get to know me more

Deciding that she wants to "get to know you more" within 3 seconds is very different to deciding she wants to f*ck you.

 

[vp171s]

I know... just in the context of this thread it was only relevant to explain that girls do also...

But seriously, some of these other posts.... you're not understanding

I'm not talking about whether she wants rip your clothes off and fvck you silly, I'm talking she decides whether she wants to get to know you more in a capacity other than friends... does she find you attractive, and do you intrigue her? In that situation, the 'friends' label never comes up, you just have talk, exchange numbers, call and then date... of course, if she's a good girl she's not going to put out on day one, but she'll have it fully in her mind that you're not just a 'friend'

Its funny, and highly relevant because I just had this discussion with my current girl yesterday... she told me that within 3 seconds of meeting me she knew that she wanted to get to know me more, there was just something that intrigued her... and this girl is a good catholic girl... I'm talking V until she was 24, and regular at the church, so don't try to tell me it's a rule that doesn't apply to 'good girls' because 'good girls' have sexual needs and urges too...

So if your current, angel of a girl friend, told you she decided in 0.5 milliseconds that she was intrigued by you, would you come here and post that? Because if you answer yes, then you're no better than any troll.

This forum is not about isolated cases or luck. This forum is for practical, likely and probably advice. To say that every girl is like your girl friend is ... well :crazy:. Get the drift?

But yes we all agree that she will OBVIOUSLY know if shes interested after she first met you. There's just no need for this "3 seconds or you've failed" crap.

 

[Chemistry]

Ummmm... did I open a thread and try to brag about that or any of my previous conquests? No

This guy's asking about a friend zone question... I'm recounting from first hand experiences to support what I'm saying... I don't know any of you people on here, so I really have no reason to boast to a bunch of screen names... I used it purely because it's the most recent example... if you notice I didn't state it in my opening post, but when it became apparent that it needed some backing up, then I used the example... I'm not talking about one chick either, it has been a subject that has come up with a number of girls who I've seen in some capacity over the last few years

You don't believe it? Fine... go about your business in your way and I'll go about mine quite happily, my way...

 

[Chemistry]

Deciding that she wants to "get to know you more" within 3 seconds is very different to deciding she wants to f*ck you.

I didn't say she was deciding she wanted to fvck you... I specifically used the language, 'someone she'd consider fvckin'' which is entirely different... what it boils down to is the capacity she wants to get to know you better in... if you're in the 'someone she'd consider fvckin'' category then the subsequent impressions that you make on her determine whether you are elevated to the 'I want to fvck' category... on the other hand your subsequent impressions could totally destroy that initial placement, and she'll throw you into the friends grouping... if she wants to get to know you as a friend immediately / initially, then it's pretty clearcut - she wants to get to know you as a friend

It's nature... she'll see you, and categorise you, exactly the same way we do girls, although we're probably a little more superficial in nature in that we split them into 'Definitely Would' and 'Never Ever' in those opening seconds...

 

[d9930380]

Ashley Chuckles - he's right. I'm a guy and I do it too. We ALL do it. Yes you can try and game a girl and you MIGHT win her round but people ARE superficial and that will be decided within a few seconds of first seeing them.

Otherwise they will only be interested in friendship and maybe a little attention if you give it to them. Just accept it and don't shoot the messenger.

Ask yourself this question. Do you do it yourself?

 

[Jariel]

If she's a relationship type of girl she probably just wants time to screen you. It's a test to see if you're capable of sticking around or if you're only after sex.

If you walk now, you failed her test and she saved herself from being used.

My friend started dating a girl a while ago and she told him she would not have sex with him until they'd been together for 6 months. He was willing to do that and he stuck with her. After 2 months they had sex. She only told him 6 months to see if he'd be willing to stick around.

 

[vp171s]

Ummmm... did I open a thread and try to brag about that or any of my previous conquests? No

This guy's asking about a friend zone question... I'm recounting from first hand experiences to support what I'm saying...

Nobody has a problem with your opinion. We have a problem with you treating your opinion as proven fact. Which it isn't. So perhaps saying, in my experience, would make things easier to work with.

A lot of people post their opinions as though they are fact. In reality every case is individual, and while there are common behaviours that we have all experienced, saying things like, "they decide within 3 seconds of seeing you, whether you're someone they'd consider fvckin..." is:
a) not helpful
b) bull****

Ok? Good.

 

[Chemistry]

If she's a relationship type of girl she probably just wants time to screen you. It's a test to see if you're capable of sticking around or if you're only after sex.

But there's a way to test that out without bringing up the term 'friend', or telling you she wants to get to know you as a friend first... it's called dating and not putting out...

 

[Chemistry]

Nobody has a problem with your opinion. We have a problem with you treating your opinion as proven fact. Which it isn't. So perhaps saying, in my experience, would make things easier to work with.

A lot of people post their opinions as though they are fact. In reality every case is individual, and while there are common behaviours that we have all experienced, saying things like, "they decide within 3 seconds of seeing you, whether you're someone they'd consider fvckin..." is:
a) not helpful
b) bull****

Ok? Good.

Simply put, some things are heavily weighted in one direction... nothing in these realms can be considered 'fact' because where people are concerned variables always exist... however some things are heavily weighted in one direction

It's a generally accepted theory, and I used a number of 'experiences' to try and give it weight in this thread to people who seemingly don't accept it...

The reason I replied again was simply because the opinion you're expressing is in the minority, and it's generally one which you'll end up changing to the generally accepted theory after time and experience... I held the same opinion you do now at one point, but that was around 3 and a half years ago...

 

[vp171s]

You know Ashley Chuckles, it would greatly help if you read what other people post. I never said we don't make snap judgements or anything to that extent.

I simply stated that your original statement of "they decide within 3 seconds of seeing you, whether you're someone they'd consider fvckin..." was ... retarded.

And you came back with, what I felt, a much better explination of your original point.

I'm not talking about whether she wants rip your clothes off and fvck you silly, I'm talking she decides whether she wants to get to know you more in a capacity other than friends... does she find you attractive, and do you intrigue her? In that situation, the 'friends' label never comes up, you just have talk, exchange numbers, call and then date... of course, if she's a good girl she's not going to put out on day one, but she'll have it fully in her mind that you're not just a 'friend'

So MY point was to make your original posts more expressive rather than "you have exactly 2.999999... seconds to convice her to **** you".

Hope we're clear now.