She says I'm overconfident for her

[Boilermaker]

This thread is hilarious...

You texted her that you saw her outside of CVS. She instantly took the frame that you were hitting on her. This frame pissed you off because she was acting all high and mighty. How dare she think you were hitting on her? What a b1tch!!! You fired back and tried to flip the script. She is the one who is heartbroken and is in love with me!! Feels real good when girls go for it. Ego. It failed and she kept the frame by disqualifying you as a suitor. Even if you don't want the girl this can be a hit to you. Your ego wounded, it escalated into a pissing match of traded insults.


You are already in a power-deficient position by texting her first. But if you have to, assume the frame from the beginning

You: Why are you stalking me at the CVS??
Her: What??
You: Just saw you, quit creepin'
Her: ...


And the smiley faces? She was already in a hostile mood before those even came out. She was not going to take any of those comments as playful. I wouldn't use them anyway.

Agreed. Her mood already decided the issue.

 

[Kailex]

This is the wrong mindset bro. Stop pedestalizing the woman and thinking that every action a man takes must lead to p*ssy.

The OP stated several times that he was just enjoying himself at this woman's expense. He didn't want to f*ck her or date her. He was just messing with her for entertainment and wanted to share her reaction with people on SoSuave. Simple as that.

I'm surprised at the amount of white knighting and female pedestalization I'm seeing on this thread. :nono:

I had to laugh at your response.

Pedestalizing?
White knighting?

Do you even know what those mean? I'm quite frankly shocked that with all your rep points... you are even throwing out those words in response to what I said... because at no point did I do either of those things.

If we've learned anything in these forums is that woman are covert in their communication. When she said "overconfident"... she really meant something else...

If he really didn't care about her... why text her in the first place with a lame message about seeing her at CVS? You're yelling "pedestal" at the wrong person, buddy.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Yes, color & excessive emoticon use, overall hatred and women-phobia sounds a lot like Burroughs ... but I can't be sure which one's the dumber one.

Although it's an interesting theory

Hi Burroughs :cheer:

Calling me Burroughs doesn't falsify anything I say nore does it validate your moronic troll posts. Its an attempt to change the topic of discussion because you have no clue what you're talking about (as usual).

How about worrying less about me and my bold font and my user name... and worrying more about responding to the OP. That's what we're here for isn't it?

Get a life Boilermaker. These silly, trivial, witch-hunts you pull is why I have no respect for you.

I had to laugh at your response.

Pedestalizing?
White knighting?

Do you even know what those mean? I'm quite frankly shocked that with all your rep points... you are even throwing out those words in response to what I said... because at no point did I do either of those things.

If we've learned anything in these forums is that woman are covert in their communication. When she said "overconfident"... she really meant something else...

If he really didn't care about her... why text her in the first place with a lame message about seeing her at CVS? You're yelling "pedestal" at the wrong person, buddy.

The bottom line is you focus way too much on how the OP "came across" to the woman instead of how the woman behaved towards the OP. You even defended her behavior. This (to me) is pedestalization --> Placing higher value on the thoughts, feelings, opinions and emotions of women.

Even if the OP cared about the girl on some level.. who f*cking cares? He behaved how he wanted and has no regrets. So what is the problem?

 

[PlayHer Man]

Saying things like "Do what you want because you want to do it" works in every facet of life except human relationships. A beta who begs and cries for his ex to come back does so because he wants to, does he not? If every salesman peppered their clients with inquiries about buying their product (as they would want to do) they wouldn't make a sale.

People come to this site to learn how to behave with women. They realize something is wrong with the way they want to act and feel the need for change. In the future, they may still want to run back to their exes after a breakup or call a girl 50 times in the beginning of the relationship, but now they know it's wrong.

As far as the OP: they were dating for a bit until they stopped seeing each other. A couple months pass and OP wants to open her again. He popped right into C+F but it didn't come off that way. It came off as insecure. Right after she mentioned she was seeing someone else he fired back with "oh you got tired of how cute I am?" or something along those lines. Whether he admits it or not his ego got the best of him at this point (trying to communicate to her overtly that he is a better catch than the other dude). The rest of the conversation is just a d!ck measuring contest, and women don't enjoy those.

After she mentions she has a boyfriend, I would have just not responded. Unless I'm mistaken, OP just wanted to see if she was up for a fling. I believe he doesn't care about her. Once she closed the door by mentioning her new bf, it's time to go home. He doesn't necessarily have to like her to get a little bit of a damaged ego from her responses. When he responded with how awesome he was the window for future opportunities shrank even more.

Edit:

I find these words that basically mean "overconfident" to be more of an open door for you to continue being overconfident:

A$$hole ("OMG you're such an a$$hole!)
Arrogant ("How arrogant of you!)
Jerk (You are such a jerk )
Smug (Ususally followed by a$$hole)

I've never heard overconfident in the context of "continue being overconfident it is turning me on." Women will just say "confident."

You make great points. And you are 100% correct about men coming here to learn how to behave with women and get the best results.

HOWEVER, there is a thin line between improving yourself to become more attractive to the opposite sex vs. overvaluing / pedestalizing women.

There is nothing wrong with giving women what they want as long as its not at the expense of your dignity. A beta begging and crying to get his Ex back is a retarded move because it won't work.. and if it does work... it will put him in a powerless position in that relationship. So it boils down to GOALS and VALUES: What is the goal? What is the price of achieving the goal? Is the goal worth achieving?

Case and point --> Your goal is to f*ck a HB9 you met in the elevator. This goal is fine provided the price is justified.

Acceptable price = Some flirting, a meet up date and some time together

Unacceptable price = Buying her expensive sh!t, kissing her ass, being her lap dog.

So if the man refuses to "overpay" for p*ssy.. then other men tell him he "messed up" or failed.. well.. I just don't agree. P*ssy isn't the be all end all. The price must be right and a big part of SoSuave is showing men how to tell when the price is right.

The reason my women today don't respect men and act the fool is because too many men are willing to OVER pay for p*ssy. For many men.. no price is too high for p*ssy. This is pathetic.

Exactly. We can all nitpick his responses in hindsight but the fact is that the girl is a huge b!tch. You might as well be telling someone in a BPD relationship that the relationship failed because their game wasn't tight enough lol. I guarantee you every person on this site would have pushed the convo here simply out of curiosity at what the b!tch would say next.

Its funny because something similar happened at work. Me and a co-worker went to talk to this chick and she absolutely lost it for NO REASON. Then we go back to the office and tell a guy and he says "That's never happened to me, you probably said something wrong" lol. Did not matter that my co-worker saw it all and backed me up. Men pedestalize women. And yes the girl was a 9.5/10 lol.

The fact is that nothing would have changed the result here and to criticize the man over the woman(who is clearly in the wrong and started the insults) is flat out biased pedestalization and white knighting.

That's exactly what I'm talking about --> In most situations involving a male and female.. if something goes wrong.. the man is blamed immediately.

-Woman mad = Man's fault
-Woman trips over banana = Man's fault
-Woman catches cold = Man's fault
-Woman cry = Man's fault
-Woman raging b!tch = Man's fault
-Woman violent and abusive = Man's fault
-Woman cheats = Man's fault

Most men don't realize how much White Knight they have in them. They talk tough.. then in situations like this they pedestalize the woman like there's no tomorrow. :crackup:

 

[tryst type]

Yikes! Didn't mean to create a battle field for us fellow sosuavers.

Everyone has good points to back up THEIR believes about it. Let me just clarify some things:

-We had never met, she was someone I was briefly talking to off okc a few months back.
- She was one of the rare girls on a dating site I'd say was an easy 8/9
- She was hot AND she knew it, even suggested subtly how many guys want her
- She couldn't really keep up with my personality in the early stages of rapport/banter
- I sensed she was just used to having her way due to her looks and thus lacked a decent personality to be considered mature and worth more than a f*ck
- Last time we spoke she couldn't keep a conversation going, lacked ideas, kept bringing up photoshoots she was on and sending pics of her and her attractive friends

I got the sense (and not to brag) that maybe she couldn't handle me and was confused as to the fact I wasn't idealizing her based on her looks ALONE

We stopped talking until I started this thread when I mistakenly had seen her. I texted her to ask because we never met and seeing her in person intrigued me a bit.

I initially took her response of dating someone as a test to see if I'd start kissing her ass because of her use of "sort of" dating someone. Then the overconfident remark reminded me why I lost interest in the first place and I also took it as a way of her testing me to get down on her level of worshipping her for her looks. So I did what I do best and disregarded her attempt for my amusement.

 

[Boilermaker]

Calling me Burroughs doesn't falsify anything I say nore does it validate your moronic troll posts. Its an attempt to change the topic of discussion because you have no clue what you're talking about (as usual).

Moronic troll posts... You mad, bro? Tell me, why are you so mad?

I along with others identified the root cause here, that's the OP is a sensitive little macho-ling like you are ... (Sorry OP!)

The point is to improve ourselves, NOT to hate women for every petty reason under the sun! We are not blaming him, we are trying to get better,

that is the spirit of SoSuave, but hatred-filled, negative, bitter cynics like yourself have polluted the field and everything became about women and how

b!tch-y they are. The case in question could be her fault or not .... but we can't change anything about that, can we? But OP can learn to live a healthy life

by improving his techniques, avoiding such women, ... and the less spiteful among us are trying to help him achieve that goal.

Since when refusing bitter talk that helps nobody has become white knighting...? What kind of a stupid lame excuse is this?

So if anything goes wrong, it's them feminists, right? ... Yeah, right....

The point is he obviously cares about her, and his ego, it's relevant because everything he says to defend himself stems from his hurt pride.

Now you are changing the tune and asking so what if he cares about her? You become even funnier when you are cornered.

I don't usually bother to talk to you, because you are just a bitter lost cause, attacking everything in sight like a rabid dog.

But every once in a while, you need an explicit refutation like this so that others don't get lost in your hate-filled ramblings.

Relax, calm down, unclench your jaw. Take a deep breath.

Nice and slow

 

[PlayHer Man]

Moronic troll posts... You mad, bro? Tell me, why are you so mad?

I along with others identified the root cause here, that's the OP is a sensitive little macho-ling like you are ... (Sorry OP!)

The point is to improve ourselves, NOT to hate women for every petty reason under the sun! We are not blaming him, we are trying to get better,

that is the spirit of SoSuave, but hatred-filled, negative, bitter cynics like yourself have polluted the field and everything became about women and how

b!tch-y they are. The case in question could be her fault or not .... but we can't change anything about that, can we? But OP can learn to live a healthy life

by improving his techniques, avoiding such women, ... and the less spiteful among us are trying to help him achieve that goal.

Since when refusing bitter talk that helps nobody has become white knighting...? What kind of a stupid lame excuse is this?

So if anything goes wrong, it's them feminists, right? ... Yeah, right....

The point is he obviously cares about her, and his ego, it's relevant because everything he says to defend himself stems from his hurt pride.

Now you are changing the tune and asking so what if he cares about her? You become even funnier when you are cornered.

I don't usually bother to talk to you, because you are just a bitter lost cause, attacking everything in sight like a rabid dog.

But every once in a while, you need an explicit refutation like this so that others don't get lost in your hate-filled ramblings.

Relax, calm down, unclench your jaw. Take a deep breath.

Nice and slow

If the solution to most men's woman problems was to be a "great guy" this site would not exist. :crackup:

Take your Mickey Mouse, delusional, white knight values to Loveshack beta fag.

 

[speed dawg]

Moronic troll posts... You mad, bro? Tell me, why are you so mad?

I along with others identified the root cause here, that's the OP is a sensitive little macho-ling like you are ... (Sorry OP!)

The point is to improve ourselves, NOT to hate women for every petty reason under the sun! We are not blaming him, we are trying to get better,

that is the spirit of SoSuave, but hatred-filled, negative, bitter cynics like yourself have polluted the field and everything became about women and how

b!tch-y they are. The case in question could be her fault or not .... but we can't change anything about that, can we? But OP can learn to live a healthy life

by improving his techniques, avoiding such women, ... and the less spiteful among us are trying to help him achieve that goal.

Since when refusing bitter talk that helps nobody has become white knighting...? What kind of a stupid lame excuse is this?

So if anything goes wrong, it's them feminists, right? ... Yeah, right....

The point is he obviously cares about her, and his ego, it's relevant because everything he says to defend himself stems from his hurt pride.

Now you are changing the tune and asking so what if he cares about her? You become even funnier when you are cornered.

I don't usually bother to talk to you, because you are just a bitter lost cause, attacking everything in sight like a rabid dog.

But every once in a while, you need an explicit refutation like this so that others don't get lost in your hate-filled ramblings.

Relax, calm down, unclench your jaw. Take a deep breath.

Nice and slow

Isn't this the truth. You getting repped for that owning. You know he's beat too, he breaks out the beta fag stuff. Guy's a joke, treat him that way.

 

[Boilermaker]

Isn't this the truth. You getting repped for that owning. You know he's beat too, he breaks out the beta fag stuff. Guy's a joke, treat him that way.

Thanks, I agree, if he's reduced to pulling out the beta fag card in red, it means it's over.

...and he's the one who belabors about "valid points" , and "logic" and "reason" ...

Next time, playHER , I am rubber you're glue ... :crackup:

 

[BeDJ]

I agree with a lot of what PlayHer Man posts. But dayummm, this sh!t was rape.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Are you guys in elementary school? :crackup: :crackup:

You call Boilermaker's long emotional faggot rant a "raping" or "owning"? Since when is acting like a butthurt high school girl on her period considered rape? More like a nervous breakdown. :crackup:

If "raping/owning someone on the Internet" is the high point of your day then soak it up. We gotta take our jolly's where we can get them right? :crackup: :crackup:

 

[BeDJ]

None of your previous posts were relevant. Take a knee and walk away with respect, bro.