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Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She says dont be so nice to me?

jdjd

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well obviously there are those who likes to be asses and those who likes to be nice or that are generally nice

i've decided to be nice because i have 2nd thoughts for this girl....but i want to know whats on her mind....

so she wanted this gift and i was able to get it for her....surprised her...

she says dont be so nice to me....and wanted to give me a hug for it...

then a few days later...she pays me back w/ a thank you card....included says....thank you blah blah and how much of a great friend i am and if i ever need i should let her know....

a few days later...she texts me....if i could put her and her 2 friends on this guest list at this specific club for her.......then i asked for the info and left it at that.... 2days later...she askes whats good to drink there...and if i were able to....

feel like shes just using me...but being nice about it...

am i reading this wrong? if i am then whats right?

i want to tell her to piss off but duno how to do it in a nice way because she is also my friends friend.....dont want any awkward moments between any of us...

does this make sense anyone?
 

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slickaz

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yeh she is using you.

you were too nice..
she decided to friend zone you.

you got two options:
1. you man up and decide you want to bed her and change your role - there is plenty of info here on how to get out of the LJBF space...read it

2. you're happy being in her used box, she will eventually find that ur past ur use by date and stop contacting you as she will have no more use for you.

girls are like that. you be too nice and theyll realise they can step all over you.

next time she texts you or calls you with a friendly request.

Say:
Hahahah! do i look like i have "Jeeves" as a name badge? or b!tch written on my forehead?; say it in a funny way. and decline her request as it goes against your ethics or time constraints.

tell her you're on a date and you cant discuss this.

or

go over, grab the b!tch tell her you dont intend on being her friend past the next 2 hours because ur gonna show her exactly why shes going to be beggin u to come back to bed + bang sense into her like a crocadile tail on hippo meat, when ur done, tell her to clean up and cook u smtn.

man up dude..if ur not a jerk.ur a door mat..
 

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You're reading her right. She is just trying to use you. You said that you want to tell her to get lost,but you want to do it in a nice way,right? That's easy. Just avoid her. Don't answer her calls,and also,that thing about putting her and her friends on some list,don't do it.
 

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You should of never of given her that gift. You pretty much screwed your chances right there.

LJBF: Let's just be friends

AFC: Average, frustrated chump

Both are bad.
 

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jdjd said:
well obviously there are those who likes to be asses and those who likes to be nice or that are generally nice?
It doesn't mean you can't make an ass out of yourself in all 3 catagories even if your intentions are good.

jdjd said:
so she wanted this gift and i was able to get it for her....surprised her...
It damn right be her birthday, otherwise there is no excuse for this gift.

jdjd said:
she says dont be so nice to me....and wanted to give me a hug for it....
Womense translation: "please keep on spoiling me u chump, and as a reward you will get a hug so I can continue to string you along"

jdjd said:
then a few days later...she pays me back w/ a thank you card....included says....thank you blah blah and how much of a great friend i am and if i ever need i should let her know.....
I would have taken her on that offer. If she is useful let her hook u up with one of her slutty friends.

jdjd said:
a few days later...she texts me....if i could put her and her 2 friends on this guest list at this specific club for her.......then i asked for the info and left it at that.... 2days later...she askes whats good to drink there...and if i were able to....
Next thing you know she is going to want you to help her move or drive her to the airport. Slowly bit by bit you are being groomed to becoming a useful servent.

jdjd said:
feel like shes just using me...but being nice about it...
Of course she is.

She is a trick and you are being bamboozled.

jdjd said:
i want to tell her to piss off but duno how to do it in a nice way because she is also my friends friend.....dont want any awkward moments between any of us...
U got two choices: either continue to slave to her whims or put your foot down and don't pick up the phone if she calls or tell her you are too busy to do sh1t for her. If you put your foot down she ain't going to like the fact her pet dog isn't rolling to her commands but at least you will have your dignity and respect back. Trust me she isn't being nice to you so why should you do the same?!
 

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She says "don't be so nice to me"

So do as you are told and don't disappoint her.....
 

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Your obviously new here or else you wouldn't of made that mistake. Yes, she is using you. Read the Don Juan Bible to get started.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Get her alone and try to kiss her. If she rejects you, then you have a reason to not do anything else for her.
Why would you suggest that? From the sounds of things that is 99% likely to fail.

Why are you getting gifts for this girl? What has she done to deserve such things?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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