"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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She put me in the LJBF zone (lets jsut be friends) because I didn't pay for lunch?

verysuave

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related to this thread http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=121043

Could it be because, twice we went out to lunch, we each paid for our own meal?

Could this have played a factor? I remember not offering to pay for anything for the first time we went out to lunch. (we went to a mexican fast food restaurant.)

The 2nd time we went out to lunch (went to carls jr), right after she ordered food, she said right away "we will pay seperate".

You think she got the wrong mindset about me from the first time we went out? I am not cheap cheap by the way.

(i figured fast food for lunch is differnt where you are expected to pay seperately VS going to a nice restaurant for dinner where the waiter gives you a check where I can actually offer to pay.

Please don't troll, I am serious about this...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This was the first girl that I have ever gone out with by the way.. EVER. So, that is why i'm over analyzing my situation
 

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I don't think that paying or not should have anything to do with the LJBF zone. True, some gals can be very presumptuous about the guy paying. Her offering to leads me to believe she isn't one of those gals. I bet she has another reason. How did you find out she just wants friendship?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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you got LJBF for other reasons, had nothing to do with paying for lunch.
 

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You got friendzoned for acting immature, not knowing when to be serious, and most importantly for not ESCALATING. If you don't at least try to kiss her on the first or second date, you're going to get friendzoned.

A lot of girls won't even give you a second date if you don't kiss them on the first date.

Most girls will give you a second date, but that's your last chance.

I mean, why should she treat you as anything other than a friend if all you are going to do is laugh and do "jokes" all night. Relationships/dating is more than that and you need to learn to be serious once in a while.
 
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