She likes me, I like her

[JLW]

Hello everyone, this is my first post and I have recently started my quest of escaping AFC status.

So here's my situation: There's a girl who I have been really, really good friends with that I always was very attracted to, but never acted on it because she just never seemed interested until recently. The girl is probably an 8 on a scale of 1-10. She's been having a lot of serious stress lately and I've been talking to her about it and giving her advice (we're talking like she needed a psychiatrist and stuff).

I always sort of knew that she liked me, and we always get along really well. We're very comfortable around eachother.

I was talking to her one night, and when she left, her friend and I had this conversation. By the way, her friend and I are also very close:

Friend: Have you ever had a crush on her before or hooked up with her over the summer or anything like that?

Me: I never hooked up with her. But yea, I like her. I'd appreciate it if you didn't tell her.

Friend: Oh, well I was just wondering, because lately she's been pretty much head over heels for you. She pretty much LOVES you.

Me: I always sort of had a feeling she did. But I never acted on it recently because I know she's been having some problems (referring to her psychological distress), and I would just add to that stress.

Friend: No, I don't think you would. In fact, I'm pretty sure you would actually help her out a lot. She talks about you constantly.





So that was pretty much the conversation (i shortened it and took away a lot of things for reading convenience, but you get the point).

Now, I really like this girl and I was obviously just going to ask her to do something tonight (Saturday). Her friend told me to say to her straight-up that I really like her, but that sounds like something any AFC would do.

So how should I go about telling her that I like her? I was thinking I would just ask her to do something. Show lots of eye contact/touching/hugging, etc. and then move in for the kiss?

Thanks in advance,
John

 

[Tyron]

try some search strings for "friendzone" etc. There are probably plenty of topics like this already.

I would simply tell her. It's not afc, on the contrary imo. Though, you must consider how you wanna present yourself if you do. Words and kino etc. These are tough.

 

[Lost In Translation]

Escaping The Friend Zone

Escaping The Friend Zone

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43174

by Senor Fingers aka FriendZone Escape Artist


Lost In Translation

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

 

[JLW]

Mr. Fingerz's little guide was quite helpful.

I read some others and almost all of them say not to rush into it. I think just telling her upfront that I really like her probably isn't the best idea.

But at the same time, I know that she is attracted to me so I see no reason to ease into it.

Opinions?

 

[Lost In Translation]

Me: I never hooked up with her. But yea, I like her.

stop telling other people how you feel about this chick

best friend or not

10 reasons this will blow up in your face

Her friend told me to say to her straight-up that I really like her, but that sounds like something any AFC would do.

the friend is giving you bad advice

your instincts are right it is AFC

So how should I go about telling her that I like her?

not tell. JUST DO.

I was thinking I would just ask her to do something. Show lots of eye contact/touching/hugging, etc. and then move in for the kiss?

yes

make sure that other chick is not around she will try and c*ckblock if she is there

I think just telling her upfront that I really like her probably isn't the best idea.

But at the same time, I know that she is attracted to me so I see no reason to ease into it.

ok you got two topics mixed up there

1. saying
2. doing

"I think just telling her upfront that I really like her probably isn't the best idea."

correct it is not a good idea

"But at the same time, I know that she is attracted to me so I see no reason to ease into it"

also correct BUT no reason to ease into it SHOULD BE PHYSICAL

rush and tell her how you feel = NO

start busting serious moves on her when you are alone KNOWING that she is into you by her SIGNS of high interest ( not what the other chick says ) and moving forwards at a faster pace with this confidence that she is into you = YES


Lost In Translation

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

Quote : Derek Flint
“I'd have that azz bouncing up and down like a low-rider in a Dr. Dre music video.”

 

[JLW]

Oh, alright, NOW I see what you're saying.

I appreciate everybody's help with my situation.

Thanks a lot,
John

 

[JLW]

I guess i'll keep you guys updated on the situation.

The girl has very low self esteem (part of her little psychological problem).


I was talking to her on the phone to ask her, and here was our basic conversation:

Me: Hello girl
Girl: Hi John, what's up?
Me: Nothing much. I got 2 things to say though. First you still haven't shown me Mean Girls (referring to the movie, she was raving about how it was such a funny movie and i had to see it)
Girl: Oh yea, you definitely have to see it!
Me: Yeah, do you have the movie?
Girl: No, I'm getting it for christmas i think
Me: Oh..*slight 2 second pause* (i thought she had the movie)....I was thinking maybe we could rent it and watch it ( i said this in a retarded way because i wasnt expecting that answer from her)
Girl: Um yea definitely what was your next question? (she said this very quickly in order to try and avoid the subject)

Then I continued on with my next question unrelated to me asking her out.

So I stupidly hung up after that. Luckily, about an hour later I went online and she was on. She IM's me and I asked her again:

Girl: Hey John I got AIM back for the weekend (her parents took it away)
Me: Oh thats cool
*random conversation until i brought up the date again*
Me: So anyway, do you want to see that movie or not?
*slight 30 second pause in conversation*
Girl: Yea, we should see it.

Then the conversation went on about when/where blah blah blah



So I don't know about this girl. She did say yes but she seemed reluctant. I'm a bit confused because my other friend said that she really liked me. I don't understand why she would be reluctant.

I think the main reason she avoided my offer at first is due to her low self-esteem (which she is getting psychiatric help for thanks to me). Either that or her friend was just full of ****.


I'll let you guys know how the date goes, its not until next Friday. Hopefully all is well.

 

[DJ4Real]

Chances are, she knows you want to ask her out. And chances are, her friend told her that you liked her.

On a scale to one to ten, your convo would get a 2.

I'm giving you the 1 point for the effort. But, I've got to be serious with you, you're in the friendszone like crazy!

You're too much of a "nice" guy. You seem like the type of guy that doesn't have an ounce of "mean" guy" in you.

Stop giving her advice, leave the advice giving up to her girlfriends.

I guess i'll keep you guys updated on the situations aswell.

Now, read what you said:

The girl has very low self esteem (part of her little psychological problem).

I was talking to her on the phone to ask her, and here was our basic conversation:

Me: Hello girl
Girl: Hi John, what's up?
Me: Nothing much. I got 2 things to say though. First you still haven't shown me Mean Girls (referring to the movie, she was raving about how it was such a funny movie and i had to see it)
Girl: Oh yea, you definitely have to see it!
Me: Yeah, do you have the movie?
Girl: No, I'm getting it for christmas i think
Me: Oh..*slight 2 second pause* (i thought she had the movie)....I was thinking maybe we could rent it and watch it ( i said this in a retarded way because i wasnt expecting that answer from her)
Girl: Um yea definitely what was your next question? (she said this very quickly in order to try and avoid the subject)

Then I continued on with my next question unrelated to me asking her out.

So I stupidly hung up after that. Luckily, about an hour later I went online and she was on. She IM's me and I asked her again:

Girl: Hey John I got AIM back for the weekend (her parents took it away)
Me: Oh thats cool
*random conversation until i brought up the date again*
Me: So anyway, do you want to see that movie or not?
*slight 30 second pause in conversation*
Girl: Yea, we should see it.

Then the conversation went on about when/where blah blah blah

She did say yes but she seemed reluctant. I don't understand why she would be reluctant.

I think the main reason she avoided my offer at first is due to her low self-esteem (which she is getting psychiatric help for thanks to me). Either that or her friend was just full of ****.

There are so many errors in that (above) than you can count on 6 hands.

There is zero attraction when you speak to a woman like that. You know what you're doing? you're talking to her, just like one of her girllfriends would talk to her.

Learn this formula: ****y and Funny+Mystery+Push and Pull+2 steps foward, one step back=Attraction.

****y and Funny- Arrogant humor. Take an arrogant comment and make it funny. The purpose of ****y and funny isn't to be an a$$...but rather, communicate to her on a attractive level and to make her laugh.

Example:

Her: I'm watching "home alone"

You: I'm sure you are.

Her: What's that supposed to mean?

You: Oh, you don't remember? a couple of weeks ago. You told me that you wanted to be a little boy, named kevin......stuck at home by yourself......just to have two grown men chasing after you....

Her: haha I didn't say that!

You: Yeah you did. You even told me that you wanted me to dress up in a cop uniform to "save" you in my strong arms, from the danger. And I told you that I don't get down like that...and esp don't get down like that with people under the age of 13 and under the height of 5'1 with heels on....

Her: uh huh, lol..right....right, your mean, lol!

When you communicate with ****y and funny it displays attractive qualities like: intelligence, confidence, ****iness, humor, thill, unpredictability, dominance, wittiness etc.

Mystery- To stay mysterious requires you to be a bit unavailable. Don't call her everyday and don't give her all the details about your life. Being Mysterious is what keeps her guessiing and thinking about you.."is he going to call", "is he available", "does he like me", "does he hate me", "does he care about me", "where is he"....those kinds of things will race straight through her mind.

Push and Pull- This is a technique every DJ uses. It helps keep the "spark".

To push means to give attention. To pull means to take away attention...try to be unpredictable as to when you will do each...about 60% of the time, you should be pulling.....and 40% of the time.....you should push.

2 steps foward one step back- This is a technique that I learned from David DeAngelo......Basically, this technique tells you how you should go about building a womans anticipation while you flirt and use kino (or touching).......use this technique while you're "pushing".....

For example: You're out on a date at the movies....and you and the girl are sitting next to each other....put your are around her....and then wait a few minutes.....then start stroking her hair for about 20 secs.....all of a sudden, act normal, and put your hand back on your arm rest...and watch them movie.....and then wait 5 minutes or so....and do 2 more steps foward...and one step back again.....

Build up her anticipation as much as you think you have to....so that when you finally move in for a kiss, it'll be "magical".

...............................................................

Remember, you are the "treat" and not her....

Make her earn you....don't just give yourself away....

You're the gold and she's the miner trying to find you because you're valuable.

Good Luck

 

[JLW]

All is well with the lady situation..

Earlier in the week we hung out and had a lot of fun. Kino and lots of joking/teasing. No AFC moments. So far so good. We were with our friends, though.

Tonight I'm going to hang out with her, this time alone.

I'll keep you guys posted.

 

[MacDiddy]

Don't tell her you like her.. Just act with her like you are already boyfriend/girlfriend. Hold her hand, give her a hug from behind. get up close and go in for the kiss.

Don't give it away by opening your mouth.

Oh yeah... and if you haven't already... read the bible

 

[Freeman]

Everybody is telling ya right!!!

Every person here has been given u golden as* advice-especially DJ4real-he really went in depth with the whole thing- if I were u I would print out what tha man said and rehearse that shi*! and like everyone said,dont tell her that u like her-SHOW IT! because when u physically make a move on her it speaks louder than words ever could-like say if u 2 where on the couch watchin a movie or something-and you go for an intimate move like say rubbing her leg-Now this has always been my test-if she allows me to rub on her leg in an intimate way as to arouse her so to speak...then Im good because at the very least she doesnt mind me touchin her like that-for many chicks stroking the thighs is definitely not a guy friend act-shows ur masculinity...Now some may disagree but Im just giving my personal experience...take it how ya want it...


"Turn Fear Into Curiousity""Turn Fear Into Curiousity"

 

[JLW]

Yea, don't worry, I read the bible and have been practicing what it preaches.


I naturally have a very good sense of humor and have been putting that to use as well.

So far I've had positive results.



I don't think this will be very difficult, since I'm pretty sure that she's into me. In addition to her friend flat out TELLING me that she likes me, she has been responding in a positive way to all of my kino and stuff like that.

I'll once again tell you guys how it goes.

 

[Nighthawk]

Before you go for the first kiss, try and save her life in some way. The adrenaline will make her horny.

 

[JLW]

Hello everybody,

I want to just thank EVERYBODY on this forum for your help.


Especially DJ4real.

I did the push-pull technique and it worked incredibly well.

I put my arm around her about 15 minutes into the movie, then after a few minutes "reached for my glass of water", leaving her hanging.

She tried to cuddle up next to me but I resisted with subtlety. Then 5 minutes later I brought my arm around her and felt her hair. After about an hour and 30 minutes of teasing her, I finally went in for the kiss and I have to say, out of all the girls that I've kissed, this one seemed to DEFINITELY be the most rewarding.

Thanks to all of you on the DJ forum for turning a hopeless AFC into an aspiring DJ.

-John

 

[locounpoco]

ahhh happy ending :cheer: