"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She initiates but?

Maximummax

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Need a prespective on this folks.
I met this chick at a party, it was business related for company
This is how it has began: i was working with this girl who works XX company, i haven't seen her but talked to her on the phone couple of times, i did normal talk on the phone with her couple of time before i moved to the her city. this new company invited to a small party they arrainged, i went and i met the same girl, bunch of people came in. WE talked for a while and she tells me we should go to lunch next week, i said ok and i am open to come. I suggested her to schedule. the next week i didn't get a call from her, for some other reason i had to call the company for other matter, the person i am trying to reach wasn't available but this girl picks the phone and talks and after i finish the conversation about the topic i called, i was about to say bye and hang up the phone, she mentions again that we should go to lunch i said ok and she tells me i am free from mon-thu only, i picked the later date so that i don't look needy.

Would like to know from you guys what did i do wrong and where?
I acted like an AFC when i gave the power to her and suggested her to schedule it. Do this girl is playing games, SHould i cancel the lunch. What you guys think.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Mantis Toboggan

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Maximummax said:
Would like to know from you guys what did i do wrong and where?
I acted like an AFC when i gave the power to her and suggested her to schedule it. Do this girl is playing games, SHould i cancel the lunch. What you guys think.
Why would you cancel the lunch?

You're a grown man. Don't play games for the sake of playing games.

Your mistake was leaving her in charge of setting the first lunch date. You just corrected that mistake by setting a new lunch date for a specific day. Now you're asking if you should cancel it....for what purpose? To not appear desperate? Calm down.

The reason you don't want to leave women in charge of planning dates is because they are flaky by nature. Perhaps SHE was too scared to call you again to set the date. Maybe SHE was worried about seeming desperate. Or hey, maybe she just wanted the man (That's you) to lead.

Either way, you'll find out if she's interested if she shows up to this new date. That will give you the answer.
 

Maximummax

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I am sure she is going to show up
she mentioned that she will be driving to a place near by where i work.

Now buddies here is something i would like to know
where to escalte from here, reach a hook point so we can meet next time?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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floydb25

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You need to lead and be more assertive. She's going to be turned off by your passive behavior eventually. It's good that she helped you, but you must take charge from here. She's not going to initiate and set up everything. You have to escalate and make decisions. Don't try to reverse gender roles... It doesn't work.

There's nothing you really need to do otherwise. Why would you cancel a date out of fear? Stop stressing this so much.
 
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