"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sorry, just a bump... I still feel a little insecure about this thing...

I spoke with her this morning. She told me I'm not in the outskirts of her mind... by the way she remarked that she's giving me 20 phone calls a day... that she can't wait to meet me and see whether I'm viable to become her boyfriend...

But I feel so envious about these two ''beautiful fvck buddies'', you cannot even imagine how. I can see them **** her without the least amount of love, or respect, and this makes me feel so bad. They even made her cry with me on the phone. I said something like: ''Sweetheart, as long as you give your a$$ to these two guys, you cannot help suffering.'' - she literally told me to mind my own business... and that she will dump them if I'll be the one.

But I'm not a fvcking Brad Pitt. Yeah, I've got a lot of things on my own, I'm very intelligent and witty (as she often notices), and have a lot of charme... but feel a bit of unease once I think that she will compare me with her two fvck buddies as long as I'll try to kiss her or fvck her.

My mind cannot find peace these days. It's going to be a difficult Xmas... lend me a help, and please be sincere.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Originally posted by Aerospace

But I feel so envious about these two ''beautiful fvck buddies'', you cannot even imagine how. I can see them **** her without the least amount of love, or respect, and this makes me feel so bad. They even made her cry with me on the phone. I said something like: ''Sweetheart, as long as you give your a$$ to these two guys, you cannot help suffering.'' - she literally told me to mind my own business... and that she will dump them if I'll be the one.
Dude, you're slowly putting yourself in that friend zone by behaving as her reusable emotional tampon. These two f-buddies of hers are addressing her primal and subconscious needs, while you're acting like the little angel over her shoulder who'll she'll ignore. Why? Because you're not doing anything for her. Yes, females need suckers like you to remind them over and over that they're not slvts and wh0res as a means of positive psychological reinforcement to balance out their carnal desires and actions.

Stop answering her phone calls; stop talking to her. It's pretty obvious where you stand in her eyes and it's definitely not in the same place as her other two friends who're hitting ALL her right buttons. It's hard, but you need to move on before you develop stronger one-it-is for this girl.

And trust me, she won't dump either. They're each too valuable for her to exchange for a human tampon.

but feel a bit of unease once I think that she will compare me with her two fvck buddies as long as I'll try to kiss her or fvck her.
Why DON'T you want to be compared to those two? They're getting theirs, and they're probably happy to learn that some guy (you) has elected to volunteer his services to deal with the unnecessary emotional aspect of their "relationship" with the girl.

Like I said, I've been there and it sucks.

She talked so sweet, looked so innocent, and said all the right things to make me feel good about myself and feel good about us, but it was all a big smoke screen. MOVE ON.
 

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I'm used to rejection and failure. Another one won't change my life so seriously. But there are so many chances things will go right... I wanna give it a try, do you know?

And, most importantly, it all counts as practice.
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
I'm used to rejection and failure. Another one won't change my life so seriously. But there are so many chances things will go right... I wanna give it a try, do you know?

And, most importantly, it all counts as practice.

How much more do you want to endure before you finally "learn"? Move on, man. I'm 99% recovered from my last one-it-is and that's because I've talked to other chics and have distanced myself from her. When she calls my cell, my heart no longer skips a beat nor does my mind indulge in fruitless possibilities...I look at the number and just shrug.

You want to F this girl? Fine. Do it now...asap. If you're looking for a LTR, then look elsewhere. I'm not trying to mislead you...I'm trying to help. We're all brothers here.

You'll be here in a month, typing the same BS, while she's getting her pvssy smashed religiously by a dude who knows EXACTLY how to treat her. In fact, she might be getting an early Christmas f*** right now.
 

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How cruel of you. She's washing her house right now, her family cannot afford a housemaid...

She took her time to send me a short message before...

I won't indulge in AFC mindtricks like envy or shyt like that. If she's gonna **** with me, that's fine. Otherwise she'll be forgotten as fast as I can blink.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Originally posted by Aerospace
Sorry, just a bump... I still feel a little insecure about this thing...

I spoke with her this morning. She told me I'm not in the outskirts of her mind... by the way she remarked that she's giving me 20 phone calls a day... that she can't wait to meet me and see whether I'm viable to become her boyfriend...

But I feel so envious about these two ''beautiful fvck buddies'', you cannot even imagine how. I can see them **** her without the least amount of love, or respect, and this makes me feel so bad. They even made her cry with me on the phone. I said something like: ''Sweetheart, as long as you give your a$$ to these two guys, you cannot help suffering.'' - she literally told me to mind my own business... and that she will dump them if I'll be the one.

But I'm not a fvcking Brad Pitt. Yeah, I've got a lot of things on my own, I'm very intelligent and witty (as she often notices), and have a lot of charme... but feel a bit of unease once I think that she will compare me with her two fvck buddies as long as I'll try to kiss her or fvck her.

My mind cannot find peace these days. It's going to be a difficult Xmas... lend me a help, and please be sincere.
Do you want to fukk her, or do you want to be who she calls to talk to, and complain about men to after she gets fukked? If you want to sleep with her, simply turn into an insensitive, callous, jerk. Dont call or bother her, and start seeing other women as soon as possible. Live your life, for God's sake dont center it around her, act as if you could care less whether you see her again, and when she does call, let her know in no uncertain terms that unless she does want to fukk, not to waste your time anymore.
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace

Soon enough, there will be her birthday. She invited me there. I bought a little present for her (quite cheap to say the truth, nothing too impressive)... That will be the first time I see her in the real world. I still don't know how to behave, the situation is becoming so complex, it's running out of my control.
You have a case of oneitis for a girl you haven't met once... :confused:

Just tell her to come over to your place and fukk her. Don't become her BF. What for? The FBs don't want her, they just want the puszy.

Does an alpha male take leftovers? You'll be feeding her emotionally and they'll be feeding her phisycallly...
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
I won't indulge in AFC mindtricks like envy or shyt like that. If she's gonna **** with me, that's fine. Otherwise she'll be forgotten as fast as I can blink.
That is what you think.
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
Ithat she can't wait to meet me and see whether I'm viable to become her boyfriend...
in otherwords she is making YOU qualify. I feel sorry for you. Get a leg up.


But I feel so envious about these two ''beautiful fvck buddies'', you cannot even imagine how. I can see them **** her without the least amount of love, or respect, and this makes me feel so bad.
You should feel envious. These are your natural instincts telling you that this girl is no damn good for you. If you chose to ignore them you will end up in a world of hurt. Ignoring you instincts as a man is the root cause of AFCism.

They even made her cry with me on the phone. I said something like: ''Sweetheart, as long as you give your a$$ to these two guys, you cannot help suffering.'' - she literally told me to mind my own business... and that she will dump them if I'll be the one.
lol. you are her emotional tampon. She is crying to you and using you as her emotional outlet. She will continue to bang those guys and then use you for the emotional part that is lacking. You need to dump her for the dispresct that she showed you You told her the truth and she still wants to be their dirty little *****. Don't you see anything wrong with this picture?

But I'm not a fvcking Brad Pitt. Yeah, I've got a lot of things on my own, I'm very intelligent and witty (as she often notices), and have a lot of charme... but feel a bit of unease once I think that she will compare me with her two fvck buddies as long as I'll try to kiss her or fvck her.
She will always compare you to her **** buddies. After all she is a dirty little wh0re.
You will always feel a bit uneasy about this situation and that is because it is a BAD situation. Learn to trust your gut instincts. You are a man and your gut instinct do not lie to you when it comes to women. If you ignore them you will be an AFC.

The problem is you have no confidence or sense of self worth. You are letting this girl disrespect you. As a man that should anger you it shouldn't make you cry. You are a good man with many good qualities the problem is you are not taking control of your life. You need to start qualifing women and stop sucking up to them.


My mind cannot find peace these days. It's going to be a difficult Xmas... lend me a help, and please be sincere.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to love a woman Every man has that need. Your feelings are perfectly natural. The problem is that you just have to date more women and begin to lead your life.

Don't you know that only 1 out of every 50 women you date are going to be any good for a relationship? This is truth. You just need to focus on your goals and live your life.

Change your mindset from

"I'll do anything to get a woman to love me."

to

"When I get my life inorder I will chose the best woman I can get"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

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Originally posted by AmIAFC
Why DON'T you want to be compared to those two? They're getting theirs, and they're probably happy to learn that some guy (you) has elected to volunteer his services to deal with the unnecessary emotional aspect of their "relationship" with the girl.
That is so true. Those guys have it made.
 

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But I'm doing all right! I do not start phone calls, do not even allow her to judge me but keep on acting like a shallow jerk. That's the way, I think.

And do not be so rapid in judging her. Maybe I described her in a too convulse way. Don't know.

Once I will get a chance to meet her in real life (in about two-three weeks from now, as I'm on holiday now) I'll make you know.

Just some seconds ago she sent me a sweet message to wish me good xmas... using all kinds of romantic and sexual metaphors.

I don't give a **** if she's not a virgin, at the end.

Because, think about it... it's life! She's just a pastime, I had countless other girlfriends, a pair of the broke my heart, I'm not the fragile prick you all are imagining... I've changed a bit.

I should answer less phone calls from her, by the way. And be less of a 'girlfriend'. Once I told her ''baby, I don't give a fvck about your life, I'm just trying to have my way with you...'' - she immediately started crying and calling me cruel and told me that I failed her expectations. The next day she called me something like 10 times... I know how women fvcking function... and I appreciate your help in making me keep my eyes open.

Oneitis is for losers. I'm not among them. I do not harbor the delusion that this chick is different from the other women. But it's a nice piece of a$$ and I think I may get her to suck my dyck in a relatively short time, using just canned conversation pieces and a little charme. And fvck the looks. Her beautiful fvck buddies may be nice, but I'll have a degree in Aerospace Engineering in a matter of weeks. Meaning that my status will grow higher, soaring above their shallow features. (Oh my God, I sounded so insecure in the last paragraph... just pretend I'm a super-suave womanizing machine here! ^_^)
 
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Tell her that you are actively pursuing other girls, and do it.

By the way, if you didnt have oneitis you wouldn't be so emotional in this post you would already be with another woman.

You should be more okay with guys fvcking her. Good looking girls have healthy sex lives--get over it. She can have sex with anybody she wants to. If she has sex with a guy, the world won't fall apart, and you need to know that and believe it.

The only way to get her really obsessing over you in your present situation is to almost never talk to her, let her know indirectly that you are going after other women, and generally care less about her--its the only way i've seen it work.

Oh and also, dont take any sh1t from women. When she said mind your own business, you should have clicked the b1tch--sometimes its just about self respect.

Good luck and I feel your pain.

Social D

Also as an unrelated side note, I have some good Mystery clips that I would like to post on the forum, however I need to cut the clips out of a 600 MB clip. Someone tell me how I can do that and i'll have some good video clips for you. :)
 

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Good... Since I want to fvck her brains out, I'll quit answering short messages and cutting phone calls (which she always starts) very short.

What if she happens to feel bad about this? I suppose it's the way it should work, isn't it?
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
Good... Since I want to fvck her brains out, I'll quit answering short messages and cutting phone calls (which she always starts) very short.

What if she happens to feel bad about this? I suppose it's the way it should work, isn't it?
Do you think she will feel bad about anything? She has another TWO guys doing exactly what you're saying you want to do.

And if she does feel bad, learn this lesson: she will show this to you only because you cared. Indifference is a powerful thing. And you showed too much romantic interest on this girl too soon, which in my book are great to kill any desire on her part.

Now she wants you around cause she thinks you can be her boyfriend EVEN IF she STILL ****s the other 2 guys, which she now might think are really hotter than you. Why? They don't care.

Do not get caught up on this. Fvck what she thinks. Go for other girls.
 

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i remember I was sexing this married girl around this time last year on a regular basis, and she was getting ready to get a divorce, and I was actually trying to talk her out of it.

The last thing I wanted was that additional crap I would have to deal with besides just the sex i was getting.. she knew I had other women, but what could she say? She was married


anyway, dude you have oneitis.

What's worse, is you have oneitis over a girl you haven't seen.,


What's even worse than that, is you have oneitis over a girl you haven't seen, AND YOU ARE A GROWN MAN.

I mean, I am 22, and eventhough I consider myself on top of my game, I'm not perfect.

It's okay to learn on a learning curve if you know nothing ab out women.. but are you that clueless or is your self esteem that low that you have to cling to something you haven't seen?

What if you meet her and she is a warthog?

Then, if you do meet her, and you try to have sex with her and she doesn't want to, never call her again. EVER. you know she is ****ing, and she suppostley is ****ing guys she doesn't care about, but won't **** you?

I don't have a problem with a girl ****ing other men when I am not dating her, so I won't call her a slut or anything like that.. she hasn't done anything wrong, she isn't cheating on anyone.

But at the same time, I already know her personality, and it's the type of a girl I would advoid.


See, women and men **** lots of people for different reasons. That's why men have sticks and women have landing zones. That's why a woman's virginia over time will loosen or tighten to fit the man that they are with most.

She is looking for some type of approvement or something from men.. she has some type of daddy issues... not only is she ****ing two guys, she openly told you she is ****ing too guys.. Why?

anyway, I would avoid if you could
 

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Originally posted by Aerospace
Good... Since I want to fvck her brains out, I'll quit answering short messages and cutting phone calls (which she always starts) very short.

What if she happens to feel bad about this? I suppose it's the way it should work, isn't it?
Be direct with her, next time she calls, bluntly ask her when you two are going to fukk. If she starts crying on you, tell her to lose your number, and hang up on her slutty a$$.

If this little plan works, she will call back begging for you to sleep with her, if she never calls back, thank your lucky stars that you didnt turn into her male girlfriend.
 

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a waste

Hey,

She is just a wh0re.

Why are you wasting your time with the slut?

cave dweller
 

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All women...

All women bang multiple guys @ some point. It's so much easier for women to get laid than the average man that when they are in heat they go ape****. It does not mean she's not a quality woman, it just means you know about it as opposed to the other women who have successfully hidden it from you.


Just deal with it. All women bang multiple men at one or more points in their lives. A significant percentage of children born in marriage of Western societies have a father other than the husband. How much more information does one need before he gets it? This is the way it is. Enjoy and be glad for it has gotten me laid soo many times now :) O, and the one you think is so precious and special, me or some other guys just like me really enjoyed banging her while you were sitting around waiting for her to call.
 

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You're starting to make me laugh (in a positive way, though...)

Some comments are so downright cruel they're actually hilarious.

What about this:

''While you're writing the sweetest short message you can, with your face deformed into a childish and innocent smile, she may be licking the balls of one of her friends, with her mind centered upon how to avoid swallowing his pubes, with you so far from this, as you're just a ridiculous annoyance in the background of your emotional life. Loser!''

I like my style...

UPDATE: The bytch sent me a message which reads something like: ''Why are you ignoring me this way? I like you... Wanna know a thing? I want to be cuddled... good night, dear.''

I did not answer a thing, obviously. I told her to avoid asphixiating me with too much messages, and that I'm not willing to be a 'girlfriend'. I also stated that I'm the one who does the validation here, and that she should try hard to keep up with me. I'm so curious to see how things will evolve, now.

But in a little angle of my mind, I can see her be ****ed in a matter of hours by one of her two stallions... by the way they never cuddle them. Let's see by the way.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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