"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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She has a boyfriend? No problem!

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So I've read like 4 threads in a row that involve a girl that has a boyfriend.... so here's how I think, and how I would bag a taken girl:

BOYFRIEND is just a word. It doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend, she's not married.

Who cares if he's a friend of a friend? Look out for YOURSELF, YOU come first. I've said it a billion times, you are your own priority.

Interaction with a taken girl is SLIGHTLY different, let me explain to you.

Common sense method (guaranteed to fail):
You: But I'm better looking, smarter, funnier, more exciting and....(other reasons)
Her: yes, but I have a boyfriend, its wrong.
End result: YOU GOT SHUT DOWN.

The method that actually works: You need to make her feel good about wanting to do stuff with you. TURN HER ON, and MAKE HER WANT IT.
Make her think that you look really good by smiling alot, giving few but good hugs, looking into her eyes often, and smiling some more. You can't convince her to cheat, she has to convince herself. She has to convince herself that messing aroudn with you makes her feel good, and BETTER than whatever her boyfriend can muster.
End result: there's a 50-50 chance you'll come out on top... most girls will go with their feelings and give in to you. You win!!

True story: I went to the local kick it place, and some guy's girlfriend was staring at me. This guy was my friend, and was the alpha in-charge guy. I spoke with her very shortly, introduced myself, smiled seductively, and left. She was still looking at me.

I added her promptly to myspace, and she told me that she wanted to tell me that I was really hot. I said "gee thanks!" And she basically said "we should kick it sometime, blah blah" A few days later, we were on my couch, and I wouldn't kiss her She got all pissed because she spent all this time trying to get at me and couldnt get any. So basically, she jumped on top of me and made out with me... which I gladly participated in. Her boyfriend found out by listening in on a conversation, and he threatened to kill me, all that regular bullsh*t.... he'd definitely kick my ass, but I'd get him pretty bad too, I'm a savage like that.

Anyways: I dont give a FLYING F*CK who their boyfriend is, I don't care what she thinks, I got her to change her mind, and I got more game than a guy way older than me.

You think I'm messed up for doing that? I'd have to agree with you, but hey, I don't really care. I came out on top. That's what it comes down to.

Am I right boys?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I actually found that funny. It should be called:

"How to get girls to cheat FOR you - The Gude"

Having never have been in that situation before I can't actually give a lot of feedbak but it may come in handy someday.
 

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I dont think there is a difference between a girl with a bf or single. Just make them feel good around you and you got her!
 

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i've been with 4 girls in the last 2 years with boyfriends, most people see that as an accomplishment, i see it as a headache

i got the girls to cheat on their boyfriends and want me more than anything, yet they didn't wanna break up with their bfs for a number of reasons (eg. they feel bad for the bf, their rep once ppl find out what she did, the bf's parents would be upset with her etc etc)

stay away from girls with boyfriends, i've been lucky but i've had guys come to kick my ass (i don't blame them, i would do the same)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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a girl i knew AND her boyfriend wanted to fvck me up. i broke the guy's left elbow and nose, the girl instantly warmed up to me so i slapped her. needless to say, i can't be touched.:D :box:
 

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A lot of taken girls flirt with me. Just at a party last night my friends girlfriend was getting close to me. It seems most taken girls I flirt with really like rubbing up against me.
 

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hey acdc what's your myspace link? Who else has it?
 

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What i have usually do or would do in this scenario (Only done this twice so far) is pretty good.


If i'm gaming a girl and she some how brings up the before i'd say "thats cute" and keep on gaming her. If she brought it up again. Then you should get alittle into this to kinda disarm that boyfriend crap. What it is called is the Boyfriend Destroyer which you basically need about 3 different stories that you can go into.

Note:This part was copied and paste from the orginal poster that i got this from.

One is future adventures of you and her having sex. But you use imagery that she can fantasize about (If you don't know, go read a romance novel) and disqualify yourself. ("Yeah, but that will never happen.")

The second is a thread that describes him as the ideal boyfriend so his faults are amplified. This is a DHV.

The third is a thread that describes you as a horrible boyfriend. You can do it ironically if you want. Basically, it's a DLV and a false-disqualifier.

I few rules you should keep in mind when doing this is.

1. Don't bash on her BF or else she will become defensive and support her bf.

2. Don't convince her that you are better than her bf

3. Third, if you talk about how awesome her BF is and exaggerate it to impossible proportions and talk about how they are destined to be together forever, this will cause her to re-evaluate her BF in YOUR TERMS... and be disappointed.

4. f you talk about how horrible a BF YOU would be, and why she would never want to date you, she will start to relate that to HER experience with HER boyfriend

5. use future adventures projection to have her imagining the two of you together. Use this HEAVILY.

6. fractionate between a joking, "I'm just kidding" tone and serious, "Is he kidding?" tone depending on how into you she is and how attached she still is to her BF.

7. use false disqualifiers a LOT.

8. just pretend that the words "I have a boyfriend" have NO MEANING at all to you. Continue as if she never said it.

Put that all together and come up with your own material with it
 

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Originally posted by Distant Light
One is future adventures of you and her having sex. But you use imagery that she can fantasize about (If you don't know, go read a romance novel) and disqualify yourself. ("Yeah, but that will never happen.")

The second is a thread that describes him as the ideal boyfriend so his faults are amplified. This is a DHV.

The third is a thread that describes you as a horrible boyfriend. You can do it ironically if you want. Basically, it's a DLV and a false-disqualifier.

I few rules you should keep in mind when doing this is.

1. Don't bash on her BF or else she will become defensive and support her bf.

2. Don't convince her that you are better than her bf

3. Third, if you talk about how awesome her BF is and exaggerate it to impossible proportions and talk about how they are destined to be together forever, this will cause her to re-evaluate her BF in YOUR TERMS... and be disappointed.

4. f you talk about how horrible a BF YOU would be, and why she would never want to date you, she will start to relate that to HER experience with HER boyfriend

5. use future adventures projection to have her imagining the two of you together. Use this HEAVILY.

6. fractionate between a joking, "I'm just kidding" tone and serious, "Is he kidding?" tone depending on how into you she is and how attached she still is to her BF.

7. use false disqualifiers a LOT.

8. just pretend that the words "I have a boyfriend" have NO MEANING at all to you. Continue as if she never said it.

Put that all together and come up with your own material with it
Awesome, but could you please explain the red words please?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Sry bout all the little acronym(sp?) its just i always type fast when posting as i am saying it in my head.

DHV - Demonstrate higher value (ex. social proof, C&F, etc)

DLV - Demonstrate lower value

false disqualifiers - its like showing disinterest. Like your showing that her if whether or not she qualifies to be with you. (ex. "It would never work out between me and you")

Sry for being all technical with all that lingo
 

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Thanks

Heh Thanks for that Distant Light, not only did it give me a good answer to a current problem I've been playing with but that tech. showed me a new strategy I wasn't using before.

Third, if you talk about how awesome her BF is and exaggerate it to impossible proportions and talk about how they are destined to be together forever, this will cause her to re-evaluate her BF in YOUR TERMS... and be disappointed.
Seems like a very useful way to rip on just about anything without directly doing it and looking like a jackass.
 

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How the hell do you guys find all these damned aggressive girls!? I would kill for that. I hate making the first move. Yes yes, I do two step forward one step back method and ****...Damn it.

But as a rule I never hit on someone else's girl friend. That is not cool, there is no other way to put it.
 

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Originally posted by Confident1

But as a rule I never hit on someone else's girl friend. That is not cool, there is no other way to put it.
Well I dont hit on them either, if I know that they got a bf. But in most of the cases I dont know that and I just go for it.
 

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so u made out with a friend's gf?


o...kay

anyways, based on what I've read (in no particular order):

1. No girl is unattainable
2. Plant a seed of doubt that he might be unfaithful and water it. Dont be like "OMG I saw him with a gurl last week" but more of a "Where's your bf now?" Ohe he is at _____?" that reminds me of this guy I knew, he would tell his gf he was _____ but instead he was at so and so's house" or when she says why her bfisnt with her atm, give her a knowing smile and go "oh really?" and then change subjects
3. Isolate before you make a move
4. Show her you can keep a secret
5. Find out what she wants in her relationship but isnt gettin and exploit it
6. most girls are not head over heels with their bf. they were the best option at the time so they took it
7. the best ones are always taken. I think it was mission impossible were someone said "women are like monkeys, they wont let go of a branch til they got a good hold on the next one" (paraphrased :p )
8. Add phrases in your arsenal like "whens the marriage" "do you think he's the one" "how many kids are you two gonna have". That'll make her re-evaluate whether she is even thinking about a LTR with him
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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