"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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She closed her legs!!??

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I don't want to make you guys bored so I'll keep this short and to the point.

I meet a girl at my apartments hot tub. We drink, talk, joke, and hit it off. We exchange phone numbers and myspace names. We part ways. I get myspace friend requests and text messages over the phone.

Next day, I get a text message over the phone asking if we would be going to the hot tub again. The answer was yes, and she said she'd meet us out there when we went.

We hung out, jokes, talked and drank again. Wrapped everything up and went out seperate ways. I get a text message over the phone saying "Ur cute". From here we go back and forth for a minute.

Me: Thank you! You obviously have good taste.
Her: ha ha ha
Me: What are you doing at this very moment?
Her: Watching the end of this movie
Me: That's cool. I should probably join you
Her: Well, it's almost over now
Me: Oh well. Maybe next time then. Have a good night
Her: You can still come over if you want
Me: I guess I'll probably be on my way then.

I get there and she says I can pick out a movie to watch. Nothing but chick flicks, so I tell her to make a choice. She picks some crappy movie. I have my own blanket and we hop in bed. Watching and watching and talking, then we start making out. Things get heated. We get very naked. I strap on the condom and commence to beating her guts in.

I wanna change positions, so I pull out. She then closes her legs and rolls over.

Me: What's wrong?
Her: Nothing
Me: Ok?
Her: We shouldn't be doing this
Me: We've already done it
Her: I don't want you to think I'm some *****
Me: Ok. Well, I really need to pee. Can I use your bathroom.

I piss and come back into the room. She's fully dressed at this point.

Me: Well, I don't want you to do anything you don't wanna do. We'll breathe easy for now and pick it back up another day.

From here I grab my things and she walks me to the door.

Can you believe this crap? What do you guys think about this one?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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kdnash82 said:
Can you believe this crap? What do you guys think about this one?
Anti-slvt defence kicked in early, maybe you were trying out too many things on the first lay and it kicked into her head that she ain't a hoe.

Never the less good job, I am sure next time she won't close her legs.
 

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Yeah, I've never heard of the anti-slut device (lol At that term) kicking in AFTER you've had sex. lol

But, you handled it PERFECTLY. So, it's all good.

If she does it to you AGAIN like that, then forget about her because that makes her a c*ck-tease.
 

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you didn't make her want it enough......didn't give her an excuse to do it.

oh and when she turned over, you should have grabed her by the hips and continued.
 

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Sounds like she wasn't enjoying it at all and made an excuse the second she had the opportunity to stop. Even in your description it sounds like you were pretty selfish. That's a good way to turn a female off very quickly.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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spider_007 said:
oh and when she turned over, you should have grabed her by the hips and continued.
This sounds like a good way to end up with some guy named Bubba and being traded around for cigarettes after I'm convicted of rape.
 

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Wyldfire said:
Sounds like she wasn't enjoying it at all and made an excuse the second she had the opportunity to stop. Even in your description it sounds like you were pretty selfish. That's a good way to turn a female off very quickly.
Now that you mention it, this sounds more plausible than the "anti-slut" device thing. In fact, i'm going to go ahead and agree with you whole-heartedly on this.
 

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You probably didn't get her horny enough before you stuck it in her.
You also acted like a chump... you come around whenever she feels like it?
 

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Play the Game said:
You probably didn't get her horny enough before you stuck it in her.
You also acted like a chump... you come around whenever she feels like it?
I guess maybe you missed the part where I practically invited myself over.

Also got a text message today from her.

"I'm sorry. I totally flipped... i hope u don't hate me... that wasn't fair to u.. i aplogize.. i should have stopped u sooner."

i'll let yall make your own assumptions
 

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I would text her back and say, "If you think you should have stopped me sooner, then I don't think we should see each other anymore. Have a good life. Bye."

That should raise her interest in thinking she might lose you, but if it doesn't, then that means she wasn't THAT much into to begin with, so you have nothing to worry about.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Why would she let you get that far with her if she didn't think you should be having sex? That just doesn't make any sense. Plus, after having only seen you twice, she invites you to her place to "watch a movie".
 

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That should raise her interest in thinking she might lose you, but if it doesn't, then that means she wasn't THAT much into to begin with, so you have nothing to worry about.
sounds like a plan to me

And wtf are you two thinking, Wyldfire and Vypros?
 

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My guess is that it was just a form of ASD (even though you already started).

Having said that, if she rolled over and is now facing the other way, I would have started kissing her neck, back, whatever.. and rubbed her thigh..be patient..(you get the idea). Slowly she would have rolled back the other way and picked up where you left off. The whole "I gotta pee" thing was just plain stupid.
 

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kdnash82 said:
Her: I don't want you to think I'm some *****
Me: Ok. Well, I really need to pee. Can I use your bathroom.
Right here is where you failed. I can't believe you said that. She basically tells you she feels like a slut for f.ucking so soon and you say "I need to pee?!!!" You basically told her you thought she was a w.hore by not responding.

Say something like, "There's no such thing as a w.hore. Its a word made up by chicks too ugly to get sex, to bring down beautiful girls cause they're jealous. Besides, I don't kiss and tell anyways." (even though we can clearly see this is a blatant lie based on this thread :crackup: )

see this thread. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=113669
I don't care if you believe it or not. But it will help disarm the anti-slut defense.
 

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Yea, the best response according to the mystery method is to freeze her out by checking your email and ignoring her and then escalating again or simply say "You're right" and get back to business :p
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I think Wlydfire was dead on in analyzing this situation. There is NOOOO girl that's liking what you're doing when it comes to sex and wants you to stop. :) She may feel bad and not have sex for awhile afterwards to make herself feel better if it was the ASD, but what this guy was describing just doesn't happen. We guys don't care either way, but girls are very particular about this type of stuff.

I'll name a few examples for the clueless here:

If you're a guy that can't grind well, the girl may just get up and leave.
If you have a bad date (not what you think, what the girl thinks), she'll stop answering her phone.
When a girl doesn't want to be with you anymore she makes excuses about wanting to see you or being around you.

Girls aren't like guys, they'll never tell you directly what they're thinking. If you get one that's this honest, consider yourself very lucky!!!You have to unfortunately figure it out with all the subtle clues and gestures that they give. They suck, but that's life I guess.
 

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Obsidian said:
sounds like a plan to me

And wtf are you two thinking, Wyldfire and Vypros?
First, Wyldfire IS a woman afterall... so I'd say that she might have a bit of a unique perspective, especially in this instance...

and vypros... well, sounds like vypros is used to the ASDefense beating him out of a lay, sounds like it happens fairly often too, since he makes himself so sure how to handle the situation.

To the original poster... these last guys are right... saying you gotta pee is like saying 'ok, I got mine anyway'. The line about slut being an ugly womans word is MONEY.

My personal favorite is the spiel I give about how both women and men like sex, and that I accepted that and don't judge people about sex.

Another good one

Her : maybe we shouldn't
you : you're right. *without stopping*
 

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Alright people. Just a little update. I gave her a call and got the voice mail.

Me: Hey you! Just wanted to check up on you and see how you were doing. Give me a call when you get this. Take care.

10 minutes later, I get a phone call. She says she's on her way back to the complex, so I invite her over to come hang out with me at my place. She comes over and we chill on the couch watching tv for about 5 hours.

My roommate gets up to leave and it goes like this.

Her: Hey! Where are you going?
Roommate: Oh, I left something in the car. I'll be right back.

In my head, I'm like, "Why is this girl wondering where my roommate is going?" *shrug* Later on, my roommates friend has made it here. So he gets up to go get her.

Her: Hey! Where are you going?
Roommate: My friend is here, so I gotta go let her in.

Again, I'm like "Why is this girl wondering about my roommate?"

Her: Maybe I should be leaving now.
Me: Alright. Well I appreciate you coming over to hang out. I'll give you a call when I get back from Italy.
Her: *gets up... walks around the coffee table and sits back down in her original seat on the couch*
Me: What was that all about?
Her: Umm.. can we go to your room?
Me: Sureeeee

We get to my room, and the clothes start to come off. The rest is history. There was no stopping this time, and I got those positions that I missed out on the previous day.

Now, doing what I did might not work for others that, God forbid, end up in this situation. According to others in this forum I made a few mistakes. Maybe things could have been done better. Maybe I could have been more smooth. Reguardless, business was taken care of.

One thing people can take from this is: Never mess with someone that lives in the same complex as you. You're bound to have problems. My mind is already trying to figure out how I'm gonna continue to bring other women over without her flipping out.

Breathe easy
 

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You were proably really lousy like the others were saying. OMG I could just imagine your lousy technique. Think about it. If you were good why would she stop? You proably didn't take your time and take her in slowly. And then...listen dude you don't flip a girl over you just have sex with the first time. You know how anti-intimate that is? I know you were going for doggy style. You don't do that.
 

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Let me get this str8. She says she doesn't want you to see her as a slut and you say. "Ok. I gotta pee"

That's classic.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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