she canceled date by text I sent back 'ok' then she called me sulky

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I haven't fingered a btch since I was 18 :crackup:

 

[Atom Smasher]

But that's the thing! I haven't even sent that many if that's what it seems like.

I usually get straight to the point and ask them out saying the times and where etc, but people on here have said don't ask her out straight, work it into the 2nd text then clarify in the 3rd.

The max I send in 1 exchange is 3-4.

I just failed her initial test by being too eager. I think the best thing to do now is wait till next week, cos in theory if I had other options I'd go see them. I don't but I need to act as if I do. She's not complying to my standards so I shouldn't put myself out to meet up with her. She's still on 1 strike. I don't know if her not replying to a text is strike 2?

A girl not replying is ALWAYS a stike in my book.

From the story I get the feel of a creepy dynamic (note... I'm not calling you a creep), where you are simply trying to manipulate things for a score and nothing else. She may be mildly attracted to you but can sense you have target fixation which may be creeping her out. It has manipulation written all over it, and she must be at least sensing this.

I would back way off and see if she tries to reconnect. If not, pop her a msg asking how she's doing (referring to her cold). Make plans for yourself to go do something, then ask her "Why don't you come along with me?" Go to the event regardless of whether her answer is yes or no.

I've always said that a woman will move mountains to be with you if she's attracted, so it's really not worth it to a man to pursue after a strike or two. I always maintain that we should get them pursuing us, not the other way around.

I wouldn't get too formulaic about it. Just back off, reconnect in a week or 5 days, and see what's up. If she's not strong, next her and know that you're a little bit wiser now.

 

[big weezy]

A girl not replying is ALWAYS a stike in my book.

From the story I get the feel of a creepy dynamic (note... I'm not calling you a creep), where you are simply trying to manipulate things for a score and nothing else. She may be mildly attracted to you but can sense you have target fixation which may be creeping her out. It has manipulation written all over it, and she must be at least sensing this.

I would back way off and see if she tries to reconnect. If not, pop her a msg asking how she's doing (referring to her cold). Make plans for yourself to go do something, then ask her "Why don't you come along with me?" Go to the event regardless of whether her answer is yes or no.

I've always said that a woman will move mountains to be with you if she's attracted, so it's really not worth it to a man to pursue after a strike or two. I always maintain that we should get them pursuing us, not the other way around.

I wouldn't get too formulaic about it. Just back off, reconnect in a week or 5 days, and see what's up. If she's not strong, next her and know that you're a little bit wiser now.

Thanks for the advice. I did sense that too, she thinks I only want sex, and I do but not only that and struggling to show her I'm not and see her as gf material (or at least regular girl I see).

I did already send the how she is doing text yesterday remember? That was the one she ignored and didn't reply to. Should I still follow that up? As you say it's another strike.

Should I be making plans with her for the weekend? Or wait till next weekend?

 

[Aristippus]

I will dissect one of your past responses and what you did wrong.

big weezy: ok i left it a few days but she hasn;t contacted me so i text her to get together on friday for a drink.


***Stop texting her and start calling. Texting too much de-personalizes the communication.

she's taken ages to reply which tells me her IL is diminishing and her response sounds either a potential flake is on the cards again or no sex is,

her: ok let's meet for a drink Friday, I cant be out too late as picking Dad up from airport Saturday morning. x


*** At this point there actually seems to be some traces of interest. She wanted to meet you for drinks on Friday and even though she said she can't be out too late, there are a lot of good possibilities. You spend time together, make out, have a good time and call it an early night OR she stays up with you late in spite of having to be up early. Either way, I see no problem here.

YOUR NEXT MOVE BELOW IS WHEN HER INTEREST STARTS TO DIE
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(i noticed her disinterest is showing but didnt realize till after i sent this next text trying to sexualise it up but realize that it's come off sleazy and not the right time, maybe last week when she had IL)

***You're starting to act desperate and starting to chase too hard. Other men do the same thing and you're acting no different. Let HER sexualize things. You can be Mr. Innocent, then get her worked up until she tries to rip your clothes off, then blame her.

me: how about i bring dinner round and we have an early night haha. i'll leave if you dont want me to stay but you look like the cuddling type (we can go for a drink after if you insist) how's 9pm?


*** Sounds like you're being apologetic for wanting to get together. Never be apologetic over something normal. Even better, you should have stuck with plans to drink and never mentioned going to her place. It will be her idea soon enough.

i realized after i sent this that she might think 'after' means after sex when i meant after dinner, to try to save face i sent immediately after: after dinner i mean (not the 'after' you were thinking of..dirty mind.. haha dont corrupt me )

*** You're doing all of the sexualizing without leaning back and giving her half a chance to pursue you. Men pushing for sex is common for her. And men pawing after her in a desperate attempt to get her attention and being way too eager is common. Now she's seeing your desperation come through and like the desperate, approval-seeking behavior she's seen in countless other men, it is a turnoff. The interest was there, as in past tense, but you keep doing things to destroy/sabotage the desire.


basically i'm fed up and understand from her position that cos we got naked on first date she might think i only want sex.

*** Wrong. If she were still turned on by you, she'd be wishing
that you wanted sex and she would probably be fantasizing right now about all of the naughty things the two of you could do together. You GOT naked (past tense) on the first date. The interest WAS there (past tense). Too many men live in the immediate past when there was interest and then engage in behaviors that are a turn-off (which usually come from wrong attitudes such as having a desperate, approval-seeking mentality and putting her on some kind of pedestal). She was interested, but you keep doing things that kill her interest in the present and then you wonder why the interest she had (past tense) is gone (present)!


Should i be toneing it down as in do something like a date ie go for drinks so she doesn't feel slvtty and only after one thing?

***Wrong question. She already slotted you into the category that she puts every other guy in who she has little interest in. The only way to salvage it would be to stop pushing so hard, be more relaxed, and use innocent touch sparingly during conversation. Very sparingly. If she starts initiating lots of physical contact again, you can slowly move forward. But never verbalize anything about sex. Once you're having sex with a woman regularly, it's fine to verbalize sexual desire. Still, actions first. Let the sexual tension build without a word.

 

[pyros]

big weezy, man...
You are really a desperate son of a *****. Sorry to be harsh but this is beyond limits. This girl is either desperate, or insane to keep talking to you; well, she already stopped replying to you..which makes sense.
Any other girl would have stopped contacting you 20 texts before.

You say you go out to 'sarge' at night, do daygame etc, but what you're missing is that UNTIL YOU HAVE A HAPPY LIFE, UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY (or at least not desperate and bitter), you're not getting any girls, and UNTIL YOU'RE HAPPY and HAVE YOU'RE INNER GAME IN ORDER, you cannot pick-up girls.
Happy life/good inner game and THEN you go to pickup girls, not the other way around sorry. Its like a video-game, first you get the iron, then you make the sword.

KEEP THIS IN MIND. STOP TRYING TO SARGE OR whatever you call it, and try to be happy! goddammit!!!
Its not gonna work out until you do level 1 (happy life, happy with yourself), and then you go to level 2 (finding a girl/girls that like you, the happy you)

And please, stop contacting this girl or she will just block your number, and you will get even angrier. STOP, RESET, and start again in some months or a year when you get your **** together.

P.S.
Also, I would recommend you stop reading any DJ stuff. It has just made you a social robot full of stupid rules, weird behaviours, and crazy rationalizations. Trust me.

 

[sigma335]

This post has nothing to do with this situation just how my weekend went.

I banged a hot little 22 yo over the weekend I met from online, the type who's getting 25+ messages a day. One of the things she says to me "why don't you text me?... I have other guys who text me and I feel like I have to text you to get you to text me, its different..." This girl while we were chilling watching tv showed me her phone with guys drooling over her, sending the dumbest chit. One guy, she said a guy she hooked up with 4 years, ago texted her "hey babe i'm horny lets fuk tonight" her response when he sent that was something like "you gotta be kidding me, i don't fuk guys i'm not dating". Then there was another guy who's texting her some dumb chit and I'm like he seems nice why don't you give him a shoot he obviously likes you. She starts laughing "I'm not attracted to him at all do you see how fat he is?" Then she makes a comment about his height. Then says "but he's a good friend, well if I wanted someone who I knew for sure wouldn't cheat on me, I guess I could date him but I'm sorry, I want someone who I'm physically attracted to."

Sure we texted over the past week but most of it was jokes and setting up our meeting. One night we talked on the phone for about an hour because she was nervous and wanted to talk to me before meeting me.


This past week the most sexual thing I sent her was after she asked if I judge people when I'm out, about what body part they should work on(because I'm in good shape) and my response was along the lines of "all the time, feel free to practice your squats on me". Then she says "haha you're so sexual, bullsh!t you don't have one night stands, don't believe it for a second"(mind you I never said I don't have one night stands, just that I wasn't looking for one with her). This was after a lot of comfort was built on the phone and I guess thru text.

After we fuked the next morning she's like, you know it would be nice if you text me more. I'm like... sure I'll text you more. Thinking to myself, "you are such an example of girls who love attention from getting texts even if you have no intention of fuking the guy you're getting texts from, you just like the attention of getting texts. Why on earth will I give you the satisfaction of texting you all the time when you pretty much told me one of the things that attracted you to me was that I was not chasing you, which in turn led to you chasing me?" Never did I say to her anything about gf material, even though I know she wanted to hear that. All I had to do was assure her I wasn't with her for a one night stand, after some resistance she says "Lets have sex".

When I go on a first date with a girl, no matter where I meet her, I treat her like I want her to be my fukbuddy, I show that I am a funny cool sexual guy. Also I'm pretty indifferent the first date to if I fuk chick, I mean sure I'm going to try but its not like I'm thinking omg how am I going to get her to fuk me? must do this this and this." Only time I remember thinking like that is if I'm going thru a dry spell and lowered my standards to bang some broad. I'm more focused on having fun doing whatever we're doing. I also just assume sex will happen on the second date and make sure its logistically possible.

As far as girls not responding to text. Out of all the girls I'm seeing now, the one who I'm seeing the most sometimes won't text me back until the next day. She has cancelled a few dates on me too. Hell, we were suppose to meet up friday night and she sends me a text around 5pm "I'm not feeling the best can I take a rain check on tonight" I send her "Okay, hope you get better" 10 minutes later I send "Want me to bring you some chicken noodle soup?" Her response 10 minutes later "Aww that's so sweet, I had a weird day at work its more mental than anything. I just don't think I'd be very good company right now." I left it at that, then on sunday night asked how her weekend was, she responded and asked about mine. I told her it was ok and watched the football game(Friday night me and her were suppose to hangout I went to a rooftop bar with a friend, talked to a couple of girls and made a good new male friend/business contact and saturday I fuked the girl I talked about at the beg. of this post). The next day she sends me "Lets hang out sometime this week or weekend" I responded back offering tues or wed she still hasn't gotten back and I'm not even worried nor will I send her another text. I also know we've been having great sex and her interest level is high also she probably is not seeing anyone else(if she is good for her but she told me she is not the type to date a lot during our first date) at the same time I'm not ready to put all my eggs in one basket with her.

 

[Tomthebomb]

Did not read all of the crap you've written in this thread, but my advice is to stop being such a *****, you sound so bloody desperate its pathetic. Have some pride.

 

[big weezy]

Ok so I sent my very last text suggesting we get together this weekend, then I deleted her number.

I sent at lunch today: let's get together at that place I told you about for drinks and some food. I'm busy tonight and tomorrow but no plans for the weekend yet. How's fri or Sat for you?

No response

At 6.30pm she sent: ok I can't do Friday as up early for work on Sat. But Sat night should be fine. How are you feeling now. I'm still feeling bit crap x

45mins later: cool I'll pick u up from yours around 8.45pm on Sat. Feeling better slept most of it off now. Hope u get better very soon.

3mins later her: thanks isn't 8.45pm too late if we're gonna grab some food? X

5mins later me: they close at 12 on Sat, so im sure the kitchen is open till 11. I'll check and report back. im gona be in town beforehand so should be home by 8, i'll try to come earlier if u dont want to eat so late. I was thinking we try some delicious side order dishes they do.

3mins later her: Don't wanna eat late. Let me know x

1/2 hour later me 19.55pm: kitchen closes at 10. Ok I'll come at 8pm.

No response.

Am I getting very quickly put into orbiter 'use him for dinner and drinks' zone?

The place we're going is just a nice local pub nothing fancy, I told her about it before. She thinks I'm only after sex so I feel obliged to treat her like potential gf material if I want to sleep with her.

I get the feeling in my responses I'm some what catering to her needs and not mine. Like at the end saying 'ok I'll come at 8pm' like bending over backwards to accommodate her, if I just said 'I'll come at 8pm' it would maybe be more authoritative (maybe reason why she hasn't responded 'ok' yet cos I appear to be supplicating to her needs.

Am I right in thinking this?

 

[Iceberg]

Am I right in thinking this?

At this point, man, there's nothing to talk about until you go on the date.

Not gonna sit here reading texts about planning dinner.

 

[big weezy]

At this point, man, there's nothing to talk about until you go on the date.

Not gonna sit here reading texts about planning dinner.

ok so an update, we met up for dinner. i had a crazy day yesterday, got into a car accident in the afternoon so i was pretty shaken up and stressed out upon meeting her. i couldn't get it off my mind enough to relax and enjoy the night.

i know on here they don't condone buying dinner before you've sexed her and i agree, but i can't keep going on drink dates each time can i? ie stuff at night which will lead to sex after. anyway im furious i spent $55 on a pub dinner including drinks.. i didn't anticipate it would cost so much, $40 max so i felt a need to get laid after my expenditure. my mind was elsewhere kept failing her same test questions: 'have you been on any dates since last week?' 'and what have you been up to?'

last week i passed them with flying colours making a joke i been out with all of them. this time i was too stressed out for game.

anyway during the date she had a go at me for not buying a round of drinks on our first date in that after we went for a picnic in the park she suggested to go to the pub, i dont drink and she bought the first round wine for her and beer for me. i took 2 sips and she ended up going off to get another drink and was angry i didnt offer to buy the next round even though i wasn't even drinking! anything not water nothing.

anyway so i drive her home we go in and she's already complaining about my driving being too slow etc etc.

i get her on the couch again but i'm really warm and i start to sweat. i go down to take her panties off and she says no, i move it to the side and start to finger her a bit then stop and take my d1ck out.. i start rubbing it on her pvssy but i was still so stressed out and anxious about the car accident that day i couldn't relax and enjoy the moment plus i was sweating so much i just couldn't get hard. she kept saying no to her panties off, that's why i moved it to the side and then she said 'i hope you're not thinking of putting that without using anything..' at that point i knew i was in but still for the life of me coudlnt get hard, i took condom out showed her it (it had some novelty factor in that it was in a different language) so at this point there was like 1 min of me explaining where it got it, i leant in to kiss her again and then the sweat dripped on her and she freaked out completely.. like kicked me off saying 'urggh' and 'you got it on my leather couch' 'go cool off' she jumps up and opens the patio door but im still sweating profusely, i told her to sit on top of me (it's easier for me to get hard that way) but she refused and moved back to her original lying back position.. it took me ages to cool down and she fell asleep on the couch. earlier i kept making suggestions to take it to the bedroom and she said 'no my sheets are dirty i need to change them' i sense so much disrespect from her i cant process all this information. and she made me feel bad for sweating, i was thinking i cant be around someone who is going to make me feel bad about myself.

in the end when she woke up she said to go to the bedroom to sleep and apologised for the smelly sheets. they smelt a bit used maybe she was worried i could smell the fragments of another guy who was there before.

but it didn't lead to sex, she just lead me to the bedroom to sleep, i tried initiating again, she just told me off like 'what are you doing.. im trying to sleep'

i thought 'fvck.. now if i leave i wont get a chance for morning sex (2 years ago with a diff girl i left immediately, that didn't go well)' i cant sleep in a strangers bed i have sleeping probs so i stayed the night, she kept complaining i was fidgeting too much and turning, so i couldnt sleep at all.. by mornign time.. she doesn't initiate anything sexual with me.. i touch her etc.. she just does her own thing, opens the blinds gets up.

to me im thinking wtf, this girl shows me no sexual interest, rarely touches me or initiates everything, i feel under pressure to perform,, i duno if she's bitter that i say im attracted to her but my d1ck hasn't gotten hard the 2 times we got naked (1st date due to my alcohol intolerance and yest cos i was shaken up after the accident) she never touches me, and i was thinking if she isn't sleeping with other guys then surely she should be gagging for it too. and she's not. factor also some stuff she says about going to dinner with a guy at work and him giving her a lift back. also this is what bothers me that i've noticed. her 2 bathrooms one ensuite one with bathtub, usually guests use the guest bathroom, the toilet seat is always down in case cats drink the water.. it's been down every time i been there (twice) now yesterday it was up.. meaning recently a male guest has been there (i know it could have been anyone but still it caused me to think it was a bit off) in all while im thinking well she has every right to sleep wtih who ever she wants as should i as we're not together and we haven't even had sex yet.. i feel like she's being a bit of a b1tch. i tried again in the morning and she said 'well im not horny now' basically she doesn't give me sex on demand only on her schedule and time frame. when we on the couch earlier her having breakfast and tea she did stroke my leg to show some affection, but that's little for a whole night of nothing. i did explain to her why i couldnt get hard and i said 'if she helped me a bit then maybe that would work.. ie like with your mouth' she says she doesn't give bl0wjobs.. im thinking great.. so i said yeah i dont go down on girls either.. i asked why dont u like the taste of cvm she said no.i feel like im dealing with a control freak who needs to have everything her way and on her schedule.

right now she owns and controls the frame. im in an unfortunate position where she's my only option so my main focus is to not get oneitis. i already in my mind accept that's it's over when it's over and bracing myself to stop contacting as soon as she gives me LJBF type of message or ignores anything, no more strikes now.

my question is, what sort of woman am i dealing with?

i understand im not fulfilling my needs as a man ie sex, and if she isn't gagging to have it with me, it makes me think she must be getting it all week elsewhere.

i feel cos i've spent so much money i need to justify the expenditure by keep pursuing it.. like next week she's suppose to take us out of town for shopping and she's suppose to get next dinner (we take it in turns) so the very least i'm getting my moneys back even if im not getting sex but i know this will end sooner rather than later.

 

[Mr Gyalist]

This thread has been entertaining lol

Weezy your text responses are to long and your not reading and taking in what these guys are telling you, but for sure, you have made me laugh, sorry

 

[hockeyfreak79]

ok so an update, we met up for dinner. i had a crazy day yesterday, got into a car accident in the afternoon so i was pretty shaken up and stressed out upon meeting her. i couldn't get it off my mind enough to relax and enjoy the night.

i know on here they don't condone buying dinner before you've sexed her and i agree, but i can't keep going on drink dates each time can i? ie stuff at night which will lead to sex after. anyway im furious i spent $55 on a pub dinner including drinks.. i didn't anticipate it would cost so much, $40 max so i felt a need to get laid after my expenditure. my mind was elsewhere kept failing her same test questions: 'have you been on any dates since last week?' 'and what have you been up to?'

last week i passed them with flying colours making a joke i been out with all of them. this time i was too stressed out for game.

anyway during the date she had a go at me for not buying a round of drinks on our first date in that after we went for a picnic in the park she suggested to go to the pub, i dont drink and she bought the first round wine for her and beer for me. i took 2 sips and she ended up going off to get another drink and was angry i didnt offer to buy the next round even though i wasn't even drinking! anything not water nothing.

anyway so i drive her home we go in and she's already complaining about my driving being too slow etc etc.

i get her on the couch again but i'm really warm and i start to sweat. i go down to take her panties off and she says no, i move it to the side and start to finger her a bit then stop and take my d1ck out.. i start rubbing it on her pvssy but i was still so stressed out and anxious about the car accident that day i couldn't relax and enjoy the moment plus i was sweating so much i just couldn't get hard. she kept saying no to her panties off, that's why i moved it to the side and then she said 'i hope you're not thinking of putting that without using anything..' at that point i knew i was in but still for the life of me coudlnt get hard, i took condom out showed her it (it had some novelty factor in that it was in a different language) so at this point there was like 1 min of me explaining where it got it, i leant in to kiss her again and then the sweat dripped on her and she freaked out completely.. like kicked me off saying 'urggh' and 'you got it on my leather couch' 'go cool off' she jumps up and opens the patio door but im still sweating profusely, i told her to sit on top of me (it's easier for me to get hard that way) but she refused and moved back to her original lying back position.. it took me ages to cool down and she fell asleep on the couch. earlier i kept making suggestions to take it to the bedroom and she said 'no my sheets are dirty i need to change them' i sense so much disrespect from her i cant process all this information. and she made me feel bad for sweating, i was thinking i cant be around someone who is going to make me feel bad about myself.

in the end when she woke up she said to go to the bedroom to sleep and apologised for the smelly sheets. they smelt a bit used maybe she was worried i could smell the fragments of another guy who was there before.

but it didn't lead to sex, she just lead me to the bedroom to sleep, i tried initiating again, she just told me off like 'what are you doing.. im trying to sleep'

i thought 'fvck.. now if i leave i wont get a chance for morning sex (2 years ago with a diff girl i left immediately, that didn't go well)' i cant sleep in a strangers bed i have sleeping probs so i stayed the night, she kept complaining i was fidgeting too much and turning, so i couldnt sleep at all.. by mornign time.. she doesn't initiate anything sexual with me.. i touch her etc.. she just does her own thing, opens the blinds gets up.

to me im thinking wtf, this girl shows me no sexual interest, rarely touches me or initiates everything, i feel under pressure to perform,, i duno if she's bitter that i say im attracted to her but my d1ck hasn't gotten hard the 2 times we got naked (1st date due to my alcohol intolerance and yest cos i was shaken up after the accident) she never touches me, and i was thinking if she isn't sleeping with other guys then surely she should be gagging for it too. and she's not. factor also some stuff she says about going to dinner with a guy at work and him giving her a lift back. also this is what bothers me that i've noticed. her 2 bathrooms one ensuite one with bathtub, usually guests use the guest bathroom, the toilet seat is always down in case cats drink the water.. it's been down every time i been there (twice) now yesterday it was up.. meaning recently a male guest has been there (i know it could have been anyone but still it caused me to think it was a bit off) in all while im thinking well she has every right to sleep wtih who ever she wants as should i as we're not together and we haven't even had sex yet.. i feel like she's being a bit of a b1tch. i tried again in the morning and she said 'well im not horny now' basically she doesn't give me sex on demand only on her schedule and time frame. when we on the couch earlier her having breakfast and tea she did stroke my leg to show some affection, but that's little for a whole night of nothing. i did explain to her why i couldnt get hard and i said 'if she helped me a bit then maybe that would work.. ie like with your mouth' she says she doesn't give bl0wjobs.. im thinking great.. so i said yeah i dont go down on girls either.. i asked why dont u like the taste of cvm she said no.i feel like im dealing with a control freak who needs to have everything her way and on her schedule.

right now she owns and controls the frame. im in an unfortunate position where she's my only option so my main focus is to not get oneitis. i already in my mind accept that's it's over when it's over and bracing myself to stop contacting as soon as she gives me LJBF type of message or ignores anything, no more strikes now.

my question is, what sort of woman am i dealing with?

i understand im not fulfilling my needs as a man ie sex, and if she isn't gagging to have it with me, it makes me think she must be getting it all week elsewhere.

i feel cos i've spent so much money i need to justify the expenditure by keep pursuing it.. like next week she's suppose to take us out of town for shopping and she's suppose to get next dinner (we take it in turns) so the very least i'm getting my moneys back even if im not getting sex but i know this will end sooner rather than later.

Do yourself and this chick a favor and forget about her. Beyond shocking she hasn't gone ghost yet.

 

[Betterz]

She's dominated you BWeezy! If you had her in control - you'd say 'suck it' - and she'd say "Yes Master". That's what I'd be doing with her. Dominate her, you're the man. She's got you begging and played you good.

 

[JohnChops]

wow weezy. just wow. "ill report back" ..... who the fvck says that? It doesnt matter if you buy her dinner, ive done it before. I do it because I enjoy the company of the female im taking out and dont mind, unless its a 500$ meal then ill be pissed but for 30$ i wouldnt care.

Just toss her number, call it a loss, chalk up and find a new girl. learning expireneces are just part of the game.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Wow. Just... wow.

Okay, first thing: go to my website (the link in my signature) and download my free eBook, "Stop Texting: 10 Ways Texting is Killing Your Chances with Women." As I always like to say, texting KILLS relationships, and this whole thread has been a prime example of that.

Second: Just because you spend money on a chick doesn't mean she owes you sex. Unless, of course, she's a prostitute - otherwise, YOU deciding to spend YOUR money on a girl is YOUR choice, not a negotiation for sex. If you're not smart enough to look for free and/or low cost activities to take her on, that's on YOU, not her. Ever considered taking her on a picnic? Free comedy show? Sight-seeing? The park? Meeting up at a bookstore or mall? NONE of these things are expensive, yet I've used ALL of them to take a girl out and eventually lay her while barely spending a dime.

Third: I want you to look back at the story you've told us thus far and ask yourself if this girl is really, REALLY interested in you. Heck, I can give you a summery:

*Girl flakes on date? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl doesn't counter-offer? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl doesn't get back to you right away? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl complains about location and/or your driving and/or your sweating? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl insists repeatedly on not having sex with you and/or makes it difficult for you to do so (i.e. not removing her panties or offering her bed for sex use)? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl bashes you while on your date about a previous date you took her on? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl asks "What are you doing?" when you're lying in her bed trying to initiate sex? NOT INTERESTED
*Girl not initiating anything sexual with you? NOT INTERESTED

Hopefully you get the point, but in case you don't... she's NOT INTERESTED.

Now, you're probably thinking to yourself: "But then, why would she go on a date with me?" Answer: she didn't have a date that night and wanted some attention. The guy she REALLY wants to be with (i.e. the guy you suspected was probably over there before you) was probably busy that night, and so she accepted your date. However, given how much complaining and resistance she was giving you all night, she regretted her decision. You got back to her place and basically tried to rape her (i.e. trying to sex her despite her constantly telling you "no") and she didn't want to be too combative but finally had to just flat out turn you down - a BIG "no-no" in the player handbook. :kick:

Soooooo... in short: she doesn't like you; she's tolerating you when you're around her but she really doesn't want to see you; and, at this point, you'd be better off finding someone else. My suggestion: sign up for a profile on OKCupid or POF and get to practicing/finding girls that want to date you. Heck, at one point I was dating/sexing 3 different girls I met on these sites, and it only took a few messages to get them to meet me. At the very least, it will allow you to "sarge" a lot faster - but like someone else said before, your dating life will REALLY start to pick up once you get yourself together first.

Hope this helps - now, go to my website and get that ebook!