PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
I haven't fingered a btch since I was 18 :crackup:
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A girl not replying is ALWAYS a stike in my book.big weezy said:But that's the thing! I haven't even sent that many if that's what it seems like.
I usually get straight to the point and ask them out saying the times and where etc, but people on here have said don't ask her out straight, work it into the 2nd text then clarify in the 3rd.
The max I send in 1 exchange is 3-4.
I just failed her initial test by being too eager. I think the best thing to do now is wait till next week, cos in theory if I had other options I'd go see them. I don't but I need to act as if I do. She's not complying to my standards so I shouldn't put myself out to meet up with her. She's still on 1 strike. I don't know if her not replying to a text is strike 2?
Atom Smasher said:A girl not replying is ALWAYS a stike in my book.
From the story I get the feel of a creepy dynamic (note... I'm not calling you a creep), where you are simply trying to manipulate things for a score and nothing else. She may be mildly attracted to you but can sense you have target fixation which may be creeping her out. It has manipulation written all over it, and she must be at least sensing this.
I would back way off and see if she tries to reconnect. If not, pop her a msg asking how she's doing (referring to her cold). Make plans for yourself to go do something, then ask her "Why don't you come along with me?" Go to the event regardless of whether her answer is yes or no.
I've always said that a woman will move mountains to be with you if she's attracted, so it's really not worth it to a man to pursue after a strike or two. I always maintain that we should get them pursuing us, not the other way around.
I wouldn't get too formulaic about it. Just back off, reconnect in a week or 5 days, and see what's up. If she's not strong, next her and know that you're a little bit wiser now.
At this point, man, there's nothing to talk about until you go on the date.big weezy said:Am I right in thinking this?
ok so an update, we met up for dinner. i had a crazy day yesterday, got into a car accident in the afternoon so i was pretty shaken up and stressed out upon meeting her. i couldn't get it off my mind enough to relax and enjoy the night.Iceberg said:At this point, man, there's nothing to talk about until you go on the date.
Not gonna sit here reading texts about planning dinner.
big weezy said:ok so an update, we met up for dinner. i had a crazy day yesterday, got into a car accident in the afternoon so i was pretty shaken up and stressed out upon meeting her. i couldn't get it off my mind enough to relax and enjoy the night.
i know on here they don't condone buying dinner before you've sexed her and i agree, but i can't keep going on drink dates each time can i? ie stuff at night which will lead to sex after. anyway im furious i spent $55 on a pub dinner including drinks.. i didn't anticipate it would cost so much, $40 max so i felt a need to get laid after my expenditure. my mind was elsewhere kept failing her same test questions: 'have you been on any dates since last week?' 'and what have you been up to?'
last week i passed them with flying colours making a joke i been out with all of them. this time i was too stressed out for game.
anyway during the date she had a go at me for not buying a round of drinks on our first date in that after we went for a picnic in the park she suggested to go to the pub, i dont drink and she bought the first round wine for her and beer for me. i took 2 sips and she ended up going off to get another drink and was angry i didnt offer to buy the next round even though i wasn't even drinking! anything not water nothing.
anyway so i drive her home we go in and she's already complaining about my driving being too slow etc etc.
i get her on the couch again but i'm really warm and i start to sweat. i go down to take her panties off and she says no, i move it to the side and start to finger her a bit then stop and take my d1ck out.. i start rubbing it on her pvssy but i was still so stressed out and anxious about the car accident that day i couldn't relax and enjoy the moment plus i was sweating so much i just couldn't get hard. she kept saying no to her panties off, that's why i moved it to the side and then she said 'i hope you're not thinking of putting that without using anything..' at that point i knew i was in but still for the life of me coudlnt get hard, i took condom out showed her it (it had some novelty factor in that it was in a different language) so at this point there was like 1 min of me explaining where it got it, i leant in to kiss her again and then the sweat dripped on her and she freaked out completely.. like kicked me off saying 'urggh' and 'you got it on my leather couch' 'go cool off' she jumps up and opens the patio door but im still sweating profusely, i told her to sit on top of me (it's easier for me to get hard that way) but she refused and moved back to her original lying back position.. it took me ages to cool down and she fell asleep on the couch. earlier i kept making suggestions to take it to the bedroom and she said 'no my sheets are dirty i need to change them' i sense so much disrespect from her i cant process all this information. and she made me feel bad for sweating, i was thinking i cant be around someone who is going to make me feel bad about myself.
in the end when she woke up she said to go to the bedroom to sleep and apologised for the smelly sheets. they smelt a bit used maybe she was worried i could smell the fragments of another guy who was there before.
but it didn't lead to sex, she just lead me to the bedroom to sleep, i tried initiating again, she just told me off like 'what are you doing.. im trying to sleep'
i thought 'fvck.. now if i leave i wont get a chance for morning sex (2 years ago with a diff girl i left immediately, that didn't go well)' i cant sleep in a strangers bed i have sleeping probs so i stayed the night, she kept complaining i was fidgeting too much and turning, so i couldnt sleep at all.. by mornign time.. she doesn't initiate anything sexual with me.. i touch her etc.. she just does her own thing, opens the blinds gets up.
to me im thinking wtf, this girl shows me no sexual interest, rarely touches me or initiates everything, i feel under pressure to perform,, i duno if she's bitter that i say im attracted to her but my d1ck hasn't gotten hard the 2 times we got naked (1st date due to my alcohol intolerance and yest cos i was shaken up after the accident) she never touches me, and i was thinking if she isn't sleeping with other guys then surely she should be gagging for it too. and she's not. factor also some stuff she says about going to dinner with a guy at work and him giving her a lift back. also this is what bothers me that i've noticed. her 2 bathrooms one ensuite one with bathtub, usually guests use the guest bathroom, the toilet seat is always down in case cats drink the water.. it's been down every time i been there (twice) now yesterday it was up.. meaning recently a male guest has been there (i know it could have been anyone but still it caused me to think it was a bit off) in all while im thinking well she has every right to sleep wtih who ever she wants as should i as we're not together and we haven't even had sex yet.. i feel like she's being a bit of a b1tch. i tried again in the morning and she said 'well im not horny now' basically she doesn't give me sex on demand only on her schedule and time frame. when we on the couch earlier her having breakfast and tea she did stroke my leg to show some affection, but that's little for a whole night of nothing. i did explain to her why i couldnt get hard and i said 'if she helped me a bit then maybe that would work.. ie like with your mouth' she says she doesn't give bl0wjobs.. im thinking great.. so i said yeah i dont go down on girls either.. i asked why dont u like the taste of cvm she said no.i feel like im dealing with a control freak who needs to have everything her way and on her schedule.
right now she owns and controls the frame. im in an unfortunate position where she's my only option so my main focus is to not get oneitis. i already in my mind accept that's it's over when it's over and bracing myself to stop contacting as soon as she gives me LJBF type of message or ignores anything, no more strikes now.
my question is, what sort of woman am i dealing with?
i understand im not fulfilling my needs as a man ie sex, and if she isn't gagging to have it with me, it makes me think she must be getting it all week elsewhere.
i feel cos i've spent so much money i need to justify the expenditure by keep pursuing it.. like next week she's suppose to take us out of town for shopping and she's suppose to get next dinner (we take it in turns) so the very least i'm getting my moneys back even if im not getting sex but i know this will end sooner rather than later.