"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
she called me dude...
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
mahon83050
Banned
This is a tough one, I used to have a girl say (whom I thought had interest) Hey, what's up man?
Mr Spitfire
Don Juan
You are definately friends or she thinks you are some kind of stud who happens to be her friend in which case you might ask her if about your standing with any of her friends.
Tell her to give you her phone number. "Hey (insert girls name) give me your phone number." Say it likes its assumed she will give it to you. Then you call her and ask her if any of her friends are into you. If she is into you her response will be evasive and indirect. If she is evasive and indirect you say "haha just kidding."
So you want to do xyz sometime? and set up the date.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Deliberately calling a woman you are interested in by a friendly handle, such as "man", "dude" or "mate" is a very good neg-hit, because it plants doubt in their mind.
HER: Hi, alright?
YOU: Hello dude!
HER: (What?? I was SURE he fancied me... EVERYONE fancies me... dont they??) ... yeah, Im ok...
Heizen
Senior Don Juan
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
SealTeamSix
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move on bro
squirrels
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Eh...I'm not sure whether it's noteworthy or not.
Pay attention to what she does, not what she says. Body language, eye contact, and behavior.
Walden
Master Don Juan
Good_ol_boy
Senior Don Juan
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
TooColdUlrick
Master Don Juan
i do this all the time, from the get go.