"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Met this girl at the club, she gave me her number.
We exchanged a series of text messages, i made jokes,
she laughed.

Then it came time to arrange a meeting.

Asked her when she is free, she said today
enthusiastically over text, with a !!!!!

Now the day has come to meet and I said her
a text telling her to meet me at X Y.

However, I get no response back.
Why would she exchange so many texts with me
back and forth, ask me where I work/school, personal questions
now no response back on the day we would meet.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Who knows?

Pick up the phone.
 

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I think that women love wasting time.
They give you their number, ask you a bunch of questions,
exchange numerous texts and then flake on you.

Guys wouldn't do such a thing. Why do they love to waste
not only their time, but my time as well?
 

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OK i decided to be desperate and called her up.
She said she has class downtown until 9:30,
i said we could meet downtown 9:45 she agreed,
should i go all the way downtown,
i mean she could flake, what do u think?
 

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Text messaging is very questionable and inpersonal. Picking up the phone is better. Chop up game for no more then 5 minutes and date close. Plain and simple.

and it would only be desperate if you let it be desperate. If he calls her up in confidence. Chops it up for a little bit. Ask for a date it won't be. It's a man leading a woman to an answer.

I don't know if she will flake or not but your catering to her. You should have made up a date idea.... not her. Lead her. That's what man are supposed to do. Be leaders.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Espi said:
How long ago today did you text her today?

In my opinion, there's no point in trying to understand the reason(s) for her flaking. Trying to figure that out is futile and will lead only to frustration.

That's exactly what I was going to say.

The reason doesn't matter at all.


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OK i decided to be desperate and called her up.
She said she has class downtown until 9:30,
i said we could meet downtown 9:45 she agreed,
should i go all the way downtown,
i mean she could flake, what do u think?

No disrespect man, but if you just set up a date for 9:45 tonight, then why the hell wouldn't you go? Wasn't that the purpose of contacting her - To set up the date?

Yeah. Go to the date. Or text her before you go, saying "I'll be leaving soon". That'll give her one more chance to reject before you travel out there.
 

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Iceberg said:
That's exactly what I was going to say.

The reason doesn't matter at all.





No disrespect man, but if you just set up a date for 9:45 tonight, then why the hell wouldn't you go? Wasn't that the purpose of contacting her - To set up the date?

Yeah. Go to the date. Or text her before you go, saying "I'll be leaving soon". That'll give her one more chance to reject before you travel out there.

OK I will go, but I will be very pissed off if she doesn't show up. Why doesnt she just reject me so that I dont have to potentially waste GAS
and money $$$

What are the chances based on what youve read that she will actually show up?
 

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gspshields2 said:
OK I will go, but I will be very pissed off if she doesn't show up. Why doesnt she just reject me so that I dont have to potentially waste GAS
and money $$$

What are the chances based on what youve read that she will actually show up?

72.44%

Stop asking f**king questions, go on the date, and find out.

What the f**k. Sometimes you gotta roll the dice, buddy. You can't have mommy and daddy holding your hand through every decision, wiping your arse for you.
 

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72.44%

You can't have mommy and daddy holding your hand through every decision, wiping your arse for you.
i'd say its 50/50.
 

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i'd say its 50/50.

I know the purpose of this site is to ask questions and learn, but guys like gspshields kill me because they ask a question, you answer it, and they find a way to ask a new question.

It's like the male internet equivalent to an attention wh0re.

At some point, I'd love to hear, "Thanks guys. I'll try it out and tell you how it goes." Instead of "Okay, thanks for asking 10 questions. Now here's question 11." This isn't studying for f**king Calculus. At some point ALL OF US had to go into the real world, take a beating, and learn a lesson. You can't sit one the sidelines, reading a website and learn this stuff from the safety of your bedroom.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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see thats the thing iceberg. these questions always lead to more questions. WHY? well because people these days, some of them are so laaaaaaazzzzy.

always looking for the quick fix or answer.

not willing to work for the answer or for themselves.

maybe instead of providing instant answers for these posters, we could coax them into finding out or experiencing the situations for themselves.

I dont know if that sounded right.

what im trying to say that we as posters are eager to help other posters with advice. which is great support but, in return posters have become comfortable and content with what we provide them and instead of learning it for themselves.
 

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Espi said:
Welcome to the world of womenchasing.

This will very, VERY likely happen to you again in the near future. Flaking is common. That's one side-effect of chasing poon. And you'll learn something new about women each time.

I think what you're not understanding is that (in my mind, anyway) she already HAS rejected you. Maybe you're just not willing to accept it.

Her interest level is low, at best. This chick's actions very clearly tell me that she's not that interested. She can take or leave you. You've already twice contacted her to "make sure" she's up for a date. That doesn't reflect well on you. You're not signaling confidence at all by repeatedly confirming the date and letting her decide where and when to meet.

One other helpful point: keep those first 2-3 dates liquid only (i.e. drinks only; cheap...no food), and keep the dates simple and local. A drink or two at a local bar is fine. Since you're paying, you tell her where to go and when to meet--the closer to your place or agenda, the better. That should minimize your concerns over wasting gas, etc. NOTHING is more frustrating than driving out of my way to meet some chick and have her cancel or show me up--or never see her again after the first date (which is common). So keeping the dates simple, cheap, and local is the way to go in the initial attraction phase.

She hasn't already rejected me, that makes no sense, why would she say she is free today if she wanted to reject me and then make plans.
 

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He hasn't been rejected.. at least not yet.

Make sure your mouthpiece is right and you won't get rejected GSP. Give her a good ass time and come back here and do a field report.
 

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You know what, I got one of those late text messages, i realized she texted me back but there was a lag by a few hours before i got the text, this was sent before I called her, boy do i feel stupid lol, guess she wasnt ignoring me after all
 

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Espi said:
Also, don't text/call/email her for awhile. Go cold on her for a week or two and then simply ask her out for another invite--again keeping in mind that those texts need to be kept minimal and to the point.
I like this.

I've had one or two women recently initially show interest then flake, either by not answering their phones or just not suggesting counteroffers to dates. The question always is - is it worth hitting these girls up again for another try, or just letting them go due to low interest.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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gspshields2 said:
OK I will go, but I will be very pissed off if she doesn't show up. Why doesnt she just reject me so that I dont have to potentially waste GAS
and money $$$

What are the chances based on what youve read that she will actually show up?
I'd just call her and tell her that I'm coming from a long way away, so are you sure you're gonna be there?

I've had women "waste my gas" and I tell/text them you just wasted $30 in fuel (b!tch!). One onetime responded that "wtf do you drive a POS 9 gallon/mile sh!t car??" mocking me for being upset, belittling me for her own fvcking flaking. Women can be out and out god damned CRUEL and vicious as they think they can do NO wrong - TOO many guys sucking their as5 everywhere they step, everywhere they go. What guy would buy a $50,000 wallet? Women seek to upgrade their stupid as5 handbag to the tune of 50k if they could see Reese Whitherspoon (upsetting PETA by buying a $50K python-made purse).

Women don't care about you, your loss, your expression of disappointment. They think that you should just be the male and have NO emotion no matter what, and they WILL walk all over you and spread abject LIES to their/your friends with no conscience whatsoever. This goes for 93% of women. They just don't give a fvck. They're weak, spineless, most of em.
 

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One positive i got from this was she did not flake.

I met her downtown and she hopped in my car and we drove uptown to this nice little pool place/lounge. There was some fat guy and even nicer HB beside us. I noticed the nicer HB was staring at me but I couldn't bring myself to make a move. Anyways, we played pool, and she actually beat me 3 times. I teased her about it, and even cheated during the game.

During the night she would be texting on the phone to her friends occasionally but not ignoring me or anything. After our 3rd game, I was ready to leave and she said lets play another game, indicating she wanted to stay longer in my mind. We ended up playing for a while and we left, I paid even though she offered. I drove her home and the conversation was lackluster, but she was talking. At the end of the night, an awkawrd goodbye and no hug or anything at all. I guess im toast right? lol
 

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Poonani Maker said:
I'd just call her and tell her that I'm coming from a long way away, so are you sure you're gonna be there?

I've had women "waste my gas" and I tell/text them you just wasted $30 in fuel (b!tch!). One onetime responded that "wtf do you drive a POS 9 gallon/mile sh!t car??" mocking me for being upset, belittling me for her own fvcking flaking. Women can be out and out god damned CRUEL and vicious as they think they can do NO wrong - TOO many guys sucking their as5 everywhere they step, everywhere they go. What guy would buy a $50,000 wallet? Women seek to upgrade their stupid as5 handbag to the tune of 50k if they could see Reese Whitherspoon (upsetting PETA by buying a $50K python-made purse).

Women don't care about you, your loss, your expression of disappointment. They think that you should just be the male and have NO emotion no matter what, and they WILL walk all over you and spread abject LIES to their/your friends with no conscience whatsoever. This goes for 93% of women. They just don't give a fvck. They're weak, spineless, most of em.

lol rage
 

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FIELD REPORT:

One positive i got from this was she did not flake.

I met her downtown and she hopped in my car and we drove uptown to this nice little pool place/lounge. There was some fat guy and even nicer HB beside us. I noticed the nicer HB was staring at me but I couldn't bring myself to make a move. Anyways, we played pool, and she actually beat me 3 times. I teased her about it, and even cheated during the game.

During the night she would be texting on the phone to her friends occasionally but not ignoring me or anything. After our 3rd game, I was ready to leave and she said lets play another game, indicating she wanted to stay longer in my mind. We ended up playing for a while and we left, I paid even though she offered. I drove her home and the conversation was lackluster, but she was talking. At the end of the night, an awkward goodbye and no hug or anything at all. I guess im toast right? lol
 

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gspshields2 said:
At the end of the night, an awkward goodbye and no hug or anything at all. I guess im toast right? lol

Wtf? :nono:

Not even a hug? What happened did it just get awkward and weird all of a sudden? Sounds like you could have kiss closed on this one based on how the night was going. I don't know man, wouldn't say you toasted it, but this certainly is not good.

Let a few days go by and see about another meetup. If she is down you are good to go, but if not, well then you got your answer.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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