"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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She and her friend both have BFs but i wan them both!

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How do i get them??

Little backround info

1st gal - we will call k - i met through a friend a while back, and now we are definatly in the just friends zone (she unloads her problems on me etc, im working on this) she comes upto me yesterday hand in hand with new bf who i used to work with and says "hey you know j dont ya" "were bored and dont know what to do" i was a bit annoyed about her coming to me to find something to do but anyway!

2nd gal - we will call H - i met through k, she has a bf i have no contact to her, no email no number, i just have a laugh around her at college! she finds me and were always having a laugh, teasing and being sarcastic etc

so basically how do you get a gal with a bf? especially these two gals?

any help will be great!

ta!
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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yeh cheers for that help!

i didnt mean in a dump him and go out with me way i meant in a how should i be around them what should i say when they mention there bf and stuff way!?
 

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Its somewhere in the middle lol

Basically i wanna know how to act around gals with bfs, can you still touch, flirt, ask out etc

so that they know im intrested in them but not in a dump him and go out with me way but in a if ya break up with him i might be intrested way

cheers
 

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You're sounding pretty desperate Peter, why settle for leftovers?

Plenty of other fish in the sea who are single...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i dont wanna sound desperate and i dont think iam

the 1st gal i really liked, but shes now going out with my mate and tbh im trying to not talk to her that much (she wants to talk she can talk but i aint gonna go out of my way to talk to her)

the 2nd gal i just like having fun with round college, shes a laugh but tbh im just intrested in how people act around gals with bfs, do ya act as tho she is single or what?
 

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First in the Tips section if your are making a post Don't look for help, go post in the discussion forum.

Find some other hot chick, you're in college you shouldn't have to look that hard. Don't really talk to them outside if you are in a big group of people or what ever. When one breaks up with her b/f make your move.
 

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The next time she comes over to complain about her bf, subtly start doing kino and... **** it man, you're not getting anywhere. Find someone else.
 

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1 thing man: remember that there are a few BILLION other chicks on this planet...
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Peter Crouch is a tall lanky ba*tard who plays for southhampton:down:


Its probablt best if u read some articles from the bible,your kinda all over the place mate..Leave the women alone,start looking after yourself better,and stop worrying about them.They rejected you,they have boyfriends and seem happy. Up your game and off with u..lifes 2 short dude
 

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TIP: Don't!
Why would you want a girl who already has a boyfriend? There are enough other girls which are available.
 
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