"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Reto

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Just curious,

How many people here shave? I mean, chest, legs arms, etc...

How long have you been doing it?

I do all except, my pubes, & under arms...

Been doing it for 10+ years. to me it's normal. I've been going to the same gym for 14 years. If you don't shave, you stand out.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Jin

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Since I'm in the performing arts (trapeze) its kinda necessary that I shave my arms, pits and chest... it just gives a "cleaner" look... and its easier to take off sports tape when you don't have hair coming with it... ;-)~

I don't really need to shave my legs so... and I've been doing it fro about 3-4 years.. I'm only 21... :rolleyes:

so I think it depends on what you are doing and if you need to or just like the look... like swimmers shave everything in order to glide better throught the water, and kickboxers and MMA guys shave their legs and arms so as not to get mat burns any worse... stuff like that..

Best,

Jin
 

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Yeah, I do it just for the looks. It's just a cleaner look...

I use to ride road bikes (bicycles) and everyone who rides shaves.
 

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well i was a track star and now im into gymnastics, and i gotta shave my legs for both for that damn tape. but as for my chest and back i shave those two regularly. hell i might even get my back lazered
 

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Do any guys here simply trim, rather than shave, chest hair?
I dislike the feeling of my chest when its shaved, but I also dislike the priickliness of my chest hair when trimmed (its like after getting a hair cut). I'm wondering if anyone knows a way to eliminate sharpness of just-trimmed hair. Perhaps some sort of conditioner?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Do women find hairy men attractive or gross?
 

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If I knew of a good place with a good reputation to get lasered I would get my chest, my neck, my @ss, my beard, and if its possibly get my arm hair thinned. Im not even that hairy, its just that if I do shave I get red bumps the next two days after. I used to road race and everyone shaves their legs, but I have noticed a lot more people at the gym with shaved legs. even so I would shave more except I HATE stubble. I don't care about the cost cause I am lazy when it comes to shaving my face.
 

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do u all really shave with a razor? or do u use something else? if u shave with a razor, doesent the hair grow back thicker and darker?

has anyone ever tried this :
www.finishingtouchtrimmer.com
 

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razors suck imo

i use a barber's hair trimmer - lowest setting on shaft and balls, number one one my chest
 

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do u all really shave with a razor? or do u use something else? if u shave with a razor, doesent the hair grow back thicker and darker?
no... urban myth.. it just seem that way because when its short its stiffer and so it seems thicker...

look at it this way... your hair is dead, meaning no nerve endings, its just protien.... so how would it know if its been cut..??

Best,

Jin
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Jin
look at it this way... your hair is dead, meaning no nerve endings, its just protien.... so how would it know if its been cut..??
Then how would it know how to grow back? :eek:
 

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ok i use facial dipilatorys on my face because it eleminate razor burns and bumps. i use whal trimmers on my chest and back, and when i have to i use a razor for my legs
 

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flava, isn't that 'face-Nair' stuff for black dudes? I read that their facial hair curls right into their faces, causing painful razor bumps. Depends how nappy your hair (facial/body) is, but I take it that a good portion of black men use this stuff. Is it effective? I heard from someone that it stinks.
 

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yeah it shyt by itself but if u leave in on then use a razor to take it off the hair basically falls of its self.
 

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someone like me has to shave alot as i can look like a black wolverine in a couple of days. so that combo is pretty effective. but yeah ur right black people hair gets too nappy thats why i straighten mine cause u cant do anything with nappy hair besides dreads and those take too long to grow.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ya i'm really curious about the smell of nair and other such products as well.

How bad does it smell, how long does it last?
 

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I shave once a week with a razor and shaving cream. Then during the week, keep the stuble at bay with an electric razor.

I tried the Nair thing once, and it took too long. Yeah, and it smells terrible. I can't deal with that. But if you got to, you got to. They do sell some stuff marketed strictly for people of African decent. I know a guy at the gym who uses it on his head. It does prevent ingrown hairs...
 
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