"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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flyinshark

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Most of you have dated a number of girls in your lives. Now:

1. dive into your beautiful memories
2. pick that FIRST DATE with a girl that was the best that you can remember
3. share your story
4. comment as to why it went down so well; was it because of divine intervention ? uncontrollable things? or your DJ SKILLZ ?(this is where you can share your smooth moves)
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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flyinshark

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I have one such story. I met a chick on the internet and i asked her out on a date the week after. For our first date, i decided we'd go skating at some interior ice rink where music is played and people just ice skate in circles till they become dizzy.

We smiled a lot and got along very well from the start. While skating, i took her hand and she liked it. Then, when we got a bit tired, we took a break and sat down on a bench near the rink. We had a fun talk, and i was making strong eye contact all along. This seemed to make her shy, but in a good kinda way.

During the discussion our faces were progressively getting closer to each other, although we weren't talking necessarely about our attraction towards each other. Not too long after, out of the blue, completely out of context, and without saying a word, we kissed. Like in the movies: they talk, look in each other's eyes, then passionately kiss. That's how it felt, and it was a great long kiss that i will remember for a long time.

So the tricks i used were strong eye contact, constant smiling, 1 or 2 good compliments, and the rest seemed to follow effortlessly.

Thanks for reading, and now share your own stories + the moves you made or strategy you used. I'm ready with popcorn and drink in my hand...let's go! :D
 

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Almost a Perfect Date

My best date in recent memory happened last Sunday. It all seems ridiculous now, but it happened. This date is staged into several dates because it never stopped. Its a bit long winded but worth reading for all the DJ applications.

I found this girl off the internet and agreed to meet her for lunch around where she lives. I had to delay the date over an hour because my alternator died on the way down. I luckily found a shop and got it fixed. This was simply a miracle, so I had a good vibe about meeting her. I think that having a positive vibe is key to scoring with women. I arrived a little earlier than I expected, so I scoped out the town and the bar we were going to meet. I made a few friends with the bartenders and asked where a good pplace to eat was and where to go for a walk near the water if the date went well.

Date 1 of 6 (Meet for a drink)
She showed up looking almost 6 ft tall and very nicely built. I'd give her an 8.0, but others might think less or more of her. I shined her with a big smile and bought her a drink. The place was a little dark, so I moved closer to her as we talked, pretending to need to hear her better. Dark places are great on a sunny day because it seems dangerous. She was shy, so I tried not to push EC too much. I joked with some C&F about some things on her profile. I could tell she was impressed that I salvaged meeting her due to my car problems. I was her spontaneous hero already.

After a few drinks, I gave her some light kino on her arm and leg. Soon, I was sitting very close with her knee between my legs. This is the best approach and position I've found when you meet a girl at a bar for drinks. You just inch closer every time you get positive feedback. She tells me she feels very comfortable with me for only knowing me a short time. That's my invitation. I stretch and give her a soft kiss. From her profile, she claimed that she only likes men that are good kissers. God I love internet dating. This was too easy. I hadn't even known her an hour yet.

Date 2 of 5 (Let's Eat)
We walk to a seafood joint next door and we are now both a little buzzed. Too late for lunch, so we order some raw oysters, food, and more drinks. This chick is definitely the bomb. After sucking back a few beers, I kiss her again. Like an outdoor french cafe, the whole place seems to observe and groove on our energy, but we don't care. There is such a stronger connection with her than with anyone I've ever met initially. Or maybe its just a great date. We need to go somewhere.

Date 3 of 5 (Premature Hook-up and She Flakes out)
I tell her that we should find a quiet place like a nice hotel in the harbor nearby and chill out where it is more quiet. I am not made of money although I did spend it that night, but I gambled here that if she accepted I would sleep with her. She mentions that its been a long time since her last guy, over 2 years. WOW! That kind of shocked me. What could be wrong with her? She hesitated and as I was about to get in my car to leave she agreed. The indian cab driver called me "Mister James Bond" several times on the way to the hotel. I couldn't have paid him enough of a tip. Our night together was not great as she actually hadn't been with anyone for a long time, so she was very, very nervous. That was fine because the date was not over yet.

Date 4 of 5 (Consumating the Date)
Early the next morning, I woke up and started again on her. This time she responded and we had several very nice moments. She had off work that day. I called in sick, so as not to rush away. I had to fight the tendency to just bail out as the date was getting more intense the longer it went on. When every thing is going right, you don't question yourself and go with the the flow. We stayed in the room until lunch making out and taking a shower together.

Date 5 of 5 (Perfect Day After)
The harbor was warm and sunny. I suggested that we get lunch and take a walk as we were both free. We walked along the harbor, sitting on benchs, kissing, and talking. We both bought souveniers which keeps me on her mind when I am gone. We got a cab back to where we met. One the bartenders saw us on the street and asked us how the date went. She realized that were still in the same clothes and we all laughed.

I am taking her to my beach place this weekend. I know I'm overdosing on her, but I don't care for now. Whereever it goes, it goes. The worst case is this girl is like a comet and we burn out fast. I used several DJ techniques in the above, many I just learned. Dealing with her flaking out was the only downside to the experience. I'll be better at handling and minimizing this the next time around.

Batter up.
 
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That last one shows amazing game, and thanks for sharing that, it gives me quite a few ideas.
 
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