"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shall I ask a girl if she's dating another guy in this way?

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I like a girl, but the other day she told me that was gonna have a kinda " date, friend's date” and I replied very inquisitive, who's the guy? she said " It's bla bla bla, he's interested in me, but I am not so interested in him because bla bla bla” and we didnt continue about the topic

I really do not know if she was testing me ... My history is very long with this girl.. I got stuck in friend zone, we fought for it and almost broke as friends,

but she has returned to have contact with me after I decided to have NC with her... In meantime I have tried to make her a bit jealous... I have mentioned that I met other girls, I have placed photos with girls on my "online profile” and I know she has seen it as well as the comments of my new female friends :)

This friday I will meet her and I wanna know what happened with the bastard?

Shall I ask ... Are you still dating that silly guy?

Or is better not to give importance to that ... and she try again to tease her and being flirty ****y and funny...

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The only effective ways to "ask" about other guys are to do it from a teasing frame or to do it from an advice frame. Anything else is going to convey your interest in a way that, at this point in the relationship, will not be beneficial to your cause.

Example: Bait her into asking if you're seeing someone else / "Yadda yadda I am / She is like "hmm" / "Well, what about you? Are you still with that hunk Mr. Right you were talking about?"

It HAS to be done from a nonreactionary, unaffected, teasing frame. Think about if your buddy was with a sea donkey of a woman and you wanted to let him down gently. This might not be what you logically know to be true as far as her case is concerned, but, you need to compartmentalize your frame and your internal state so you project the right frame and she ends up falling into it.
 
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"Shall I ask a girl if she's dating another guy in this way?"

Whatever your clever idea is, the answer is no IMO.
 
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Wtf is wrong with you guys asking girls out that work with you and girls that already got a man thats where it ends. I thought I came here to learn something, but most you people are afc to the core.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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tigrecu said:
I like a girl, but the other day she told me that was gonna have a kinda " date, friend's date” and I replied very inquisitive, who's the guy? she said " It's bla bla bla, he's interested in me, but I am not so interested in him because bla bla bla” and we didnt continue about the topic

I really do not know if she was testing me ... My history is very long with this girl.. I got stuck in friend zone, we fought for it and almost broke as friends,

This friday I will meet her and I wanna know what happened with the bastard?

Shall I ask ... Are you still dating that silly guy?

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Why are you even going to coffee with her to talk about some other guy if you have feelings for her? If you don't have feelings, then go. If you do, man up and get in there.
 
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