"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Extend your hand, do the handshake but do not move your hand up and down or side to side, because as someone pointed out on here..it comes across as dorky.
 

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Yes, shake her hand when you first meet her, but DO NOT shake her hand after you have escalated your game! This equals to rejection for her.
 

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You don't shake hands. You kiss them on the cheeks (except if it's strictly professional.)

I pity all of you who live in places where you're supposed to shake hands with girls :p
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Lol I picture someone literally "shaking" a girls hand up and down. You didn't even have to say that bmx.

Look her in the eyes, smile, squeeze it a little (not HARD!) and hold it for a second longer than with a man. Just hold her hand IN yours for a couple seconds and give it a gentle squeeze. Helps if you got good hands.
 

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You guys should come to Hawaii, here it is customary to kiss girls you meet =)
 

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it sucks for me b/c when im really nervous, my hands get really sweaty. when i think about it, it gets worse. this is for guys and girls. i hate having social anxiety.
 

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In case anyone was interested, the official rule of ettiquette is that you do not offer to shake a ladies hand unless/until she offers hers.

Now that's out of the way-I do find it awkward also. It feels very guy like, and I am never convinced this is the right move.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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MotownMack said:
In case anyone was interested, the official rule of ettiquette is that you do not offer to shake a ladies hand unless/until she offers hers.
Now that's out of the way-I do find it awkward also. It feels very guy like, and I am never convinced this is the right move.

You beat me to it Motown! That's exactly what I was going to point out. If she does offer her hand, do not give 'er the vice.

Here's the rub: if you "shake" her hand with a good grip, you risk hurting her hand and looking like a caveman. If you give 'er the limp wrist and a light squeeze, you look like a fag. It certainly is a fine line between a firm, confident handshake with a woman and a faggy limp hand shake.

If she looks like the dainty petite type, I won't shake (unless she offers her hand, of course, as per etiquette). If she looks like this, give 'er the vice!
 

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This thread reminded me of the times where a girl would go in for a handshake and I flipped it into a game of Thumb-War.

Win or lose... you get to start kino... not just with the hand-game, but after...
I let her beat me, then used C+F and would get playful kino in return. Or, if the girl seemed a bit self-overvalued, I would beat her, and C+F her from that point, and then playfully kino her.

Wow...
totally forgot about that. Time to play that game again. Win or lose... at least you won't be doing a business formal handshake, that conveys... nothing!

If you do find yourself in a situation where a "business formal handshake" is the only appropriate course to take... ALWAYS LOOK DIRECTLY INTO HER EYES when you take her hand, HOLD THAT GAZE, and then... HOLD ONTO HER HAND FOR THREE SECONDS LONGER THAN NEEDED

Never lose eye contact! Muy importante!
 

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MotownMack said:
In case anyone was interested, the official rule of ettiquette is that you do not offer to shake a ladies hand unless/until she offers hers.

Now that's out of the way-I do find it awkward also. It feels very guy like, and I am never convinced this is the right move.
as Magma said, agreed
 

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dude unless you do something wierd, it doesn't fvckin matter

I broke that etiquette rule countless times because I never heard of it. it didn't matter. and I can think of a few instances where I got attraction from it because it established my presence and put me in a position to start leading the interaction

don't overanalyze sht that ceases to matter once you open your mouth
 

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Okay here's how a Don Juan shakes a woman's hand. Look her in the eye say "wassup" while simultaneously nodding your head back, then use the gangster hand shake where you start with the arm wrestling grip where your thumbs intertwine then slide into the formal where you clutch with your four fingers then with your middle finger scratch the middle of her palm and smile while still looking in her eyes. She'll know exactly what you mean cause you just communicated you wanna fvck her. I picked up a lot of girls this way and they percieved me to be confident and playful. Some would tell me with a smile that they know what that stands for or means then I'd deny it like "what are you talking about my friend?" Just act ****y and funny and play with her. So yeah definitley shake her hand and use the scratching her palm with your middle finger technique. Try it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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While Jacob's and My approach to the "handshake" are totally different, note:

We both try to make the handshake into something more.. We both use C+F while doing it.

As I say... a handshake IS important, only because it is the first moment that you get to touch the girl. Whether you are playful, silly, serious, gangsta, doesn't matter. What matters is you physically transferring your sexual desire to her via touch. Eye Contact is crucial at this point, as well as body language.
 

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Be gentle.. use both hands to shake her one hand.
 

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splinterkb said:
Be gentle.. use both hands to shake her one hand.
And when she starts grinding on another guy... run to the bathroom before you start crying. No girl will respect you if they see you crying on the dance floor.

Are you Fracking serious! The only time your should be using both hands.... SECOND BASE! and even then, I can think where my other hand can be!

You suggest... shake her hand like she's your grandma?
 

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One Of The Best Ways To Open While Holding Hands

One of the best ways I have found that creates attraction very quickly and gets you straight into comfort almost instantly with in the first 2 mins of the interaction. is to take the woman's hand gently and kiss it on the out side of the hand like men did in Knights and Princess times, then once you kissed her hand look at her and smile keep holding her hand then, move your hand and hers towards her face turn it so now the outside of your hand is by her lips for her to kiss your hand, as you can see you have instant compliance if she goes for it. Then continue to hold her hand and start running your vocal material while continuing to hold her hand, and at this point you are close and you can go straight away into isolating with out having to really move her at all.

Frosty

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Rook said:
And when she starts grinding on another guy... run to the bathroom before you start crying. No girl will respect you if they see you crying on the dance floor.

Are you Fracking serious! The only time your should be using both hands.... SECOND BASE! and even then, I can think where my other hand can be!

You suggest... shake her hand like she's your grandma?
I agree Rook a lot of the guys posting don't know how to play with the handshake and be perceived as alpha male. Most of what I'm getting is they don't want to offend the lady's and put her on a pedestal then come of as AFC with no balls. No guts no glory.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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