"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Sh!t testing in LTR.

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I'm hitting a sticking point with a particular sh!t test that seems to have shown up a few times in my current LTR.

Let me start of by saying the LTR is amazing 98% of the time.

Now the 2% - probably period related. Sometimes if we go out, she'll sometimes start looking for an argument on the way to wherever we're going... basically trying to sour the mood, by steering the conversation towards an argument.

Trying to ignore it, keep things funny, changing the subject, or re-framing the vibe doesn't work. She'll still try and steer it back to an argument, or we'll end up in silence.

If I were to say 'Are you ok? Do you want to go out tonight, we could always go back and chill?', kinda calling her bluff, it will be met with a jokey sounding 'I knew it, you dont want me to come out with you'.

How would you respond to this?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My GF attempts to pull this crap a lot. She just did it Friday. My response was "you know what I've had my nuts busted all day at work today, I don't need it from you. Say one more word that isn't positive, ANY WORD, and we won't go out for a month. I don't need your s**t and am not going to put up with it".
 

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A woman who starts to argue with you and get into fights in a LTR has usually reached the initial stages of her complacency in the relationship and losing respect and interest in you as a MAN.

Yes, you heard me - she is TESTING YOUR FRAME because you don't have a firm hold on it anymore. That is why she is becoming all b!tchy.

Arguments and fighting from a woman who has been relatively respectful and submissive towards your frame in a LTR is an almost guaranteed she's on her way out the door.

She is just FINDING a reason to create that friction so you can be the evil-doer who eventually kill the relationship so she doesn't get a guilty conscience. If she doesn't fix her behavior after repeated offenses, and you DON'T NEXT her - don't blame us we didn't tell you that she isn't going to start branch swinging and finding the next BETTER thing after she dumps you.

Exodus
 

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GotED? said:
A woman who starts to argue with you and get into fights in a LTR has usually reached the initial stages of her complacency in the relationship and losing respect and interest in you as a MAN.
Errr.. Not quite in this case. We have sex daily and things are great 98% of the time.

This behaviour only pops up for a day or two each month just before her period i.e PMS.

All I need to know is how you'd deal with it.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Dude - don't you think THAT information was kind of important to include in your original post????

This new info in regard to PMS pretty much makes this thread obsolete.

I don't allow my ex-GFs use the PMS as an excuse for bad behavior. It is like Pavlov the Dog, how are you going to set the conditioning and rules for your woman??

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Ok... So if / when they do what I said in the first post...

How do you respond to that particular test?
 

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Take her back home and nuke the whole evening.
 
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