"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Sh*t test, what they are and how to not fail them.

ElStud

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This article here is going to be about sh*t test. These are things that women tend to give when they're attracted, but want to see if you're being the real you. Sh*t test are basically when she says or does something that will throw you off guard. Most guys will fail these tests and thus, not get the girl. Examples of sh*t test are:

- Saying "I'm a lesbian".
- Saying something she knows will get you off guard. For instance, I'm just plowing with a story and chick catches me off guard by saying "I think chick flick is a deragatory term". I reacted, started qualifying myself and thus failed her test.
- Random yelling at you about nothing. For instance, a guy on these forums named Snow Plowman told me a girl once sh*t tested him by saying "Close the fvcking window!". This is NORMAL for chicks and does not mean she's actually mad at you, it means she's testing you. If a girl is really mad at you, she wouldn't bother.

Most guys will FAIL these test and that's why they don't get laid. The way you fail a sh*t test is by reacting to what the women says or does. For instance, if she says "You'll never get laid!" and you start arguing with her, you've failed the sh*t test. There are two ways to pass sh*t test, changing the topic or completely ignoring her. If you pass the sh*t test, the girl will see that you're who you really say you are and thus will move things on with you. You fail it and she'll completely lose attraction. I've never passed a sh*t test, yet to be honest, but this is the information I've gotten from people who HAVE passed sh*t test and if I encountered another sh*t test, which I undoubtly will, I have the knowledge to pass it.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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A sh!t test that I had to deal with recently was:

Her: "I think I want to be a bartender at [such and such] club"
Me: "Cool! You will be making more money than me. So that means that you must pay for my habits. Your my sugarmomma now and that means I expected to be wined and dined."
Her: ":eek: I thought you didn't want me dancing in a club."
Me: "Yeah, I also realize that you would be working. You won't have time to dance plus you could support my habits with your tips that you would be making."
Her: "ummm... no."
Me: " :p "

I also found another way to deal with sh!t tests effectively was don't put up with the bullsh!t. Set the precedent in the beginning to not put up with the sh!t tests.

A long time ago, I said, "I refuse to put up with any girl that will yell at me for minor things because that was all my previous relationship was."

Sure enough, she yelled at me because I messed up her bed. She flipped. I said it over again, and she automatically stopped yelling at me became quiet/reserved and started to cry. She thought that she would get yelled at. I held her tightly and just left the room. Am I an assh0le? No, I just know what I will and will NOT put up with in a relationship.

Another precedent that I set up in the very beginning was that I refuse to grow my hair out (I like managable short hair) and told her that I will not put up with it. She doesn't ask me to grow it out. I don't do it. I don't put up with the bullsh!t.

She also knows that if she p!sses me off enough, that I got three other plates spinning at once. Not relationships, but friendships that could easily cross the line to relationship (including her best friend from high school). She already fears that since I am attractive to women that I could easily be stolen. Silly girls.

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Sh*t Tests are the female's way of determining how "secure" you are.
How secure you are in yourself, and how secure SHE shoudl BE with you.
It is the way she can decide if you are capable of preventing her from her own destruction, and that of you, and the relationship.
That's why it is NEVER mysoginistic to believe that you have the ability to "put a woman in her place." In fact, as a man, a masculine Man, you MUST know how to do this. Or else, you will simply end up in repetetive cycles with low quality women, and lack the tools to handle ALL types of women. ANd lack the tools to habndle LTRs. And, oh yes, womne do talk behind your backs about you to to other women. And if there is at least one thing that is a commn recurring theme which women hate is the feeling that you are a "fake", not a REAL "man". and a "little boy", and a "mamma';s boy", and "need to be told what to do."
DON"T BE THAT GUY!!!!!!!!!

Learn how to handle women.
If you don't, she will never truly trust you with herself.
Sh*t tests are ways she determines your level of maturity, social competence and if you are socially well adjusted, they also let her gauge your communication skill lelvel with women, they let her know how much experience you have had with women, they let her know how you respond to adversity, and let her know if you can put her in her place and not let her walk all over you.
 

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Kev07 said:
I don't know about the lesbian one, friend of mine reserves that line for guys that really creep her out - might not be as much of a sh!Ttest as much as a flat rejection
But maybe if she says that in the opening, it could be. But if she's giving you a bunch of IOI's and sh*t and just suddenly says "I'm a lesbian", it's a sh*t test.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Don't react, respond to everything she says. First think, is this a (s)hit test or not, then answer or not as the case may be.

All women do it - just be aware and prepare to take the (s)hit !!
 

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Night Owl said:
Don't react, respond to everything she says. First think, is this a (s)hit test or not, then answer or not as the case may be.

All women do it - just be aware and prepare to take the (s)hit !!
Respond to them? What, that's exactly the opposite of what you do and what every other guy does out and fails the sh*t test with. Key is NOT to respond to the test.
 

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Wolf said:
Yes, if a girl is giving me IOIs and the like, then says:

"I'm a lesbian"

I would come back with something like:

"Oh cool, so is one of my other female friends, maybe I could hook you guys up..."


If she really is a lesbian though... Well, that's a different story...

I try to respond in the total opossite way to what she "wants" to hear (as in what will make you fail)...


Her: I have a boyfriend...
Me: Oh cool, I have a girlfriend...

Her: Oh my god turn that music off I hate it...
Me: Well I play it a lot so you'd better get used to it...
Yes, but it's better to just ignore it. Only respond if you have REALLY good game. Important thing is to not get sucked into her frame, because if you do, you fail the test. Personally I don't think responding would work.
 

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ElStud said:
Yes, but it's better to just ignore it. Only respond if you have REALLY good game. Important thing is to not get sucked into her frame, because if you do, you fail the test. Personally I don't think responding would work.

So if your talking to or introducing yourself to some girl and she says she's a Lesbian... You just stop talking to her? Like walk away? or Just sit there and ignore her?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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You could do two things..
Either humour her and say things like;
"Oh really? What a huge turn on, can I bring a camera and take pictures on your next sex romp?"

OR you can actually be serious::"Interesting. When did you come out to your parents? How did they react? It must have been hard for you. Feeling alienated like that..." etc etc
 

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Why are you Divorced

Why are you Divorced
Whts best answer
this girl asked several times if I cheated or my girl cheated
said NO
she kept on asking several times

Whats good answer for this ?
 
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What is your best answer ?

carrot said:
Why are you Divorced
Whats best answer
this girl asked several times if I cheated or my girl cheated
said NO
she kept on asking several times

Whats good answer for this ?
 

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I don't think sh!t tests are quite to the extremity that you make out, but yes, they do exist.

A True Don Juan doesn't have to worry about passing them however, because it is second nature to him to react in the way any True Don Juan would i.e. to not put up with the bull**** and instead call her on it.

Listing them is therefore rather inane. There are limitless examples but the reactionary mindset should remain the same:

- Call her on her BS
- Don't allow her to talk down to you
- Always be willing to walk away

Again though, second nature to TDJ's.
 

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If you're not sure how to react, then yes, saying nothing or changing the subject is a safe bet. It's better than supplicating or trying to defend yourself.

A good rule I've heard for handling **** tests is this:
Never take anything a woman says seriously

Don't be taken aback or surprised, just treat it like a joke. Act like she's a little girl and what she said is kinda cute, not offensive.


As a side note, if she starts screaming at you to "CLOSE THE F***ING WINDOW!!" Thats not cute. Put your foot down and you'll be glad you did :rockon:

EDIT: Carrot, you should've told her "it's complicated". No need to explain from there, she'll get it.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This, to me, is just plain awful. Why are we justifying this? Since when is it OK to put people through unnecessary tests? Insulting them? Yelling at them? For no reason other than to "test" them?

It seems like women can do no wrong. If she acts like a b1tch, then "it was for a reason. She was testing you, she was doing this, etc"

Why let them get away with this? We have to stop giving women more excuses to abuse us. And yes, I mean abuse. Sh1t tests many times are verbally abusive and sometimes even physically.

If a man tries any of these things, women surely will not try to "understand why" he did what he did. He will be seen as a bad person, someone to be looked down upon.

Maybe these women are just mentally/emotionally unstable from their past. Maybe THEY are the reason why they act like this. Maybe their actions shouldn't be encouraged.
 

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This, to me, is just plain awful. Why are we justifying this? Since when is it OK to put people through unnecessary tests? Insulting them? Yelling at them? For no reason other than to "test" them?
When I came here I had lived quite a bit of life, and therefore had learned most of these lessons that they teach here through the school of hard knocks. The one concept that was completely new to me, that I had never heard of or thought about before, was the "sh!t test". Honestly, I'm still not entirely certain I believe in them. In my mind, I always just thought that girls tended to be b!tchy.

The explanation here is that girls will test your congruency and masculinity by giving you these tests. Almost everyone here agrees that this is what they're up to. Again, I just thought that girls tended to be b!tchy.
 

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Here is an example of a sh!t test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV-HLXeUmAk&feature=related

Pay close attention to the guy's reaction. He obviously failed the sh!t test. If he were a true DJ, a real man, he would have responded positively instead of negatively, and gotten laid with that girl.








But seriously though, talk about taking the pwssy off the pedestal :D
 

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zekko said:
When I came here I had lived quite a bit of life, and therefore had learned most of these lessons that they teach here through the school of hard knocks. The one concept that was completely new to me, that I had never heard of or thought about before, was the "sh!t test". Honestly, I'm still not entirely certain I believe in them. In my mind, I always just thought that girls tended to be b!tchy.

The explanation here is that girls will test your congruency and masculinity by giving you these tests. Almost everyone here agrees that this is what they're up to. Again, I just thought that girls tended to be b!tchy.
a large amount of **** tests if not the vast majority are subconcious...
 

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a large amount of **** tests if not the vast majority are subconcious...
If they're subconcious, how do we know what they're really up to?
How do we know they're not just being b!tchy, rather than testing our congruency and masculinity?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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