"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Sh!t, I'm a prude!

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Damn it damn it damn it.

Well, I hate to inveigh once again another stream of words among the bustle and shout of the sosuave community, so I'll keep this short.

Theoretically, I want sex. A lot. I'm a man after all. But the idea of actually having sex like some guys do, having sex with a girl after only a few hours, that seems disgusting to me!

If you'd asked me two years ago, I would have said this reaction was pure decency. If you ask me now, I'm starting to think it's pure useless prudery. First of all, what kind of man has an anti-slut defence? But isn't purity something important?

When you get right down to it, this board is truly adolescent. Are those of us who would refuse sex with a girl we just met (I would!) just prudes? Am I just limiting my life with my useless philosophies? I admit that I want sex, so why shouldn't I take it?

I can tell you one thing. When I read this gunwitch or Pook things about "be sexual," I realize that I am not sexual. At all. I am friggin androgynous. It's because I don't want to get sexual with a girl right away. I would like to be intimate with a girl before I have sex with her, but that can't happen in a few hours, right?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Sigh, I'm not dating any girls right now that I feel sexual about. I think I might be setting my sights too low. Sh!t. I had so many great chances in France. Back in the states, I've got nothing right now. Or I have great opportunities, but I'm not using them. Sh!t.

I have promised so many times to change, then I wake up the next morning the same. I see an opportunity and I just shrug. ****.

Ok, I have a date tomorrow with a girl. She's cute, I think she's pretty cool. This is that mystery date I posted about earlier. Well, fvck me sideways, she used to date a really nice guy, the guy did me right, introduced me to all his friends about 5 years ago. Always great to me, we weren't good friends but I really respect him. Now this will be date 2 with his ex, I still haven't touched her. If I don't touch her tomorrow, well, it's the friend zone for me. She's not that hot though, **** I'm just dating her out of boredom. This is so stupid. I don't want her that much, until she's around, and I think of seeing this guy and turning purple with embarrassment. So embarrassing! Then I'm seeing this other girl, I knew her brother, her brother's best friend. Everybody thinks she's a weirdo, and she's super christian too. What am I expecting out of that?

I feel like my life needs to change every single ****ing night, but every morning I don't care anymore. Every day.

Thank you, SoSuave, for reading the ramblings of an insane man. I'm going to sleep.
 

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izza}When you get right down to it said:
You're not taking what's on offer because you have standards and decency.

It's almost expected of men these days to be under control of a woman's sexual desires. They have the standards, we work around them.

Well screw those expectations, it's about time we took the power back.

Only screw who you really want. Lower your standards and you lower your self-worth. Just make sure those standards are set at the right level.
 

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Hi izza,
Loved reading this, it put a smile on my face. Well, because of your sociality, you have choices mate, and you are simply exercising those choices.
izza said:
I can tell you one thing. When I read this gunwitch or Pook things about "be sexual," I realize that I am not sexual. At all. I am friggin androgynous. It's because I don't want to get sexual with a girl right away. I would like to be intimate with a girl before I have sex with her, but that can't happen in a few hours, right?
Who cares whether you're 'sexual' or not? You aren't some robot performing to a script. You're a cool guy enjoying life. I am now going to look up 'androgynous'. Is it something to do with Star Wars?
 

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nobody says you have to have sex.

must it be a conflicted thing? if you WANT (on balance) to have sex, you do. if you DON'T (on balance) want to have sex, you don't.

but just because you come down on the side of refraining doesn't make others juvenile though. on par of a sated man criticizing a famished one...

some people have a whole huge social/moral/religious construct governing the appetites of sex. fine. good for them. OR, the person simply may not have a very strong appetite. that's fine too.

and there are others who treat the appetite of sex like the appetite for food. if you're hungry (and you can) you eat. and most men are driven by an extremely voracious appetite. but that does not make them juvenile.

true, it is an absolutely CONTROLLING aspect of their lives... all manner of effort (working out, grooming, etc.) simply would not (despite naysayers who say they do it for "themselves") exist without the desire to fvck... heck, i'll bet it goes further... it makes people consume (purchase) stuff and acquire status symbols where they otherwise might not.

i have argued before that perhaps the primary role women play in society is to be SOCIALIZING AGENTS for men.... men who might otherwise have extremely simple tastes, work in the gas station grocery mart for the durations of their lives, shack up in the woods with a generator, a case of beers and an xbox 360....

so women prevent such dissipation, focus ambitions, drive commerce... sustain a coherent society! all from men's desire to fvck.

if you are NOT driven by the imperative to fvck, there's one less leash on you. so good on you. you're free.

delta
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good post delta. Thanks.

You know, it has always seemed to me a stupid and empty life to live to fvck. So much so, that even desiring sex has seemed dangerous to me. Some men are only alive when they're having sex, and that seemed to me a shame.

But I think I will put an end to my virginity next good chance I get. I'm scared of diseases and pregnancy like you wouldn't believe - I'm bloody terrified, oh my god!

But I think I can still be alive when I'm not having sex, so I'm thinking I should just go for it.
 

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hey, if you're still a virgin and have options, and especially if you're not in a chemically driven panic to fvck and fvck right the fvck now - there's no hurry you know. i don't see anything wrong in waiting for the "right one"... especially if you're not seeing it every time you close your eyes like tetris blocks...

some guys should just get it out of their system cuz it just blocks them until they pop their cherry but that doesn't sound like you. like i said, it sounds like you have options. you're free.

in a way, you're lucky. i wouldn't want my sex drive to subside but i am definitely one of those guys who only feels alive while fvcking or else somehow sexing up a chick.

not having access to it definitely amps up that need. geez, it might be different if i could do it anytime but as of now, i'd be perfectly happy doing nothing else for the foreseeable future but just fvcking hot chicks.

so yes. chains.

you go. be free.

delta
 
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