“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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sh*t....did that just happen?

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Okay..so I need your guys advice on this.

At a bar with my buddy having a beer. Two guys and a girl walk up start ordering drinks right next to me. Girl is incredibly attractive. I immediately start conversation with them. First the guys, then the girl. The 2 guys start talking, so I ask her how she knows them. She tells me one is her brother, the other she doesn't know. She seems interested in me.

I keep the convo going with the 3 of them. Buy them each a drink. Well the guys leave. She stays. Still talking to me.

Well at first I'm like, wow... nicely done. Just relax this is going good. The more I talk to her though I realize she's very closed off. Like she's hiding alot. Very simple answers, yet very "interested"...if that makes sense. We end up talking for like 2 hours. She straight up tells me she's "not a social person" "doesn't like people" "very closed off" At this point, I almost feel challenged. It motivates me more. I really dig this girl, despite a bit of a socal difference. Anyway, they look like they are about to leave and I say "Listen, I really liked talking with you, and would love to continue our conversation... may i have your number?" Without missing a beat..she looks right at me, and says "no." "I don't give my number out in bars." I was thinking, wow that was blunt..but not giving up yet. "Thats understandable" I say, "no problem, I will give you mine..and if you wanna call great, if not, thats cool to." haha She says "No. I wont call you. You'll just have to hope I run into you again sometime." So at this point, I'm just like wow. That kinda hurt. Well she gets up, and goes to the bathroom. I buy her bro another drink and ask him whats up with her. he goes on to say how she is insanely independent, doesn't date, has never seen a guy pick up on her, really nasty past with thier parents, etc.... yikes.

So I write my number on a napkin. AND my email address. I walk up to her and say..."your gettin this either way. There is more behind that shield of yours, and I'd love to find out what it is. have a good night." I leave.

I feel relieved I gave it to her. Hopefully there is no "what if" now... I just cant help but wonder if I handled it wrong, or what I should have done. I put it in perspective, and I am thinking to myself: wow, I probably just seem like "another guy" from the bar to her... So I mean how would I have made myself stand out? What you guys think? Suggestions? Comments?

All in all... fun night:rockon:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Well, to me, it seems like you pretty much made her remember you by thrusting a napking into her face lol. Many AFC's would have given up when she was blunt to you, so nice persistance. I think to be honest, you might have a chance here,
I'm thinking maybe that was one of a girl tests to weedle out the best guy, the one who knows what he wants, just keep up the natural persistence and it will work. Good luck man.
 

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if you are older than them it makes you look less tight if you buy drinks for them
 

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Why would you want to spend time with this nut job anyway?

You shouldn't have felt hurt when she turned you down, but rather relieved she didnt give you her number so you wouldn't have had to waste any more time on this uptight social retard.

Theres no challenge here and nothing to define yourself as a 'man' by pursuing her - Just a waste of time.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Monkey said:
Why would you want to spend time with this nut job anyway?

You shouldn't have felt hurt when she turned you down, but rather relieved she didnt give you her number so you wouldn't have had to waste any more time on this uptight social retard.

Theres no challenge here and nothing to define yourself as a 'man' by pursuing her - Just a waste of time.
:rolleyes: An example of a brain washed sosuaver.

You did good, OP. But to beware, she could indeed be a crazy biatch at the end of it all. Or it could be like in the movies where the girl tells the Tom Cruise guy no a million times then they fall in love and get married because he "knows what he wants", which is "her", and she "rewards his persistence" with the hot punany and a lifetime commitment.

Good luck!
 

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BigPoppa said:
buying them drinks is afc behavior ^^
I can see your point, but at the same time she was with her brother and friend. Buying them drinks was a good gesture. He minded his own business while I hit on his sister in a bar right next to him. haha, it kept everyone happy and got them on my side. IMO that was good tact on my part.



Monkey said:
Why would you want to spend time with this nut job anyway?^^

I mean sure a part of me is a bit dissapointed that I didn't close, but if anything this just goes to show the marvels of being a challenge. Her ambiguity and lack of info she had to offer, only made me that much more curious. Sure, maybe she was a total bitc*, but maybe she was infact just a bit uptight in the bar scene, and my persistance could have payed off. Gotta give her the benefit of the doubt. Can't be upset she wasn't a total slut, that'd be too easy. haha Sure I could have next'ed her and moved on to some fluzie, but this girl challenged me an unfamiliar way. thats why i spent time with her.

I played the game. Didn't win, didn't lose. But I still played it..
 

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iqqi said:
Or it could be like in the movies where the girl tells the Tom Cruise guy no a million times then they fall in love and get married because he "knows what he wants", which is "her", and she "rewards his persistence" with the hot punany and a lifetime commitment.
:rolleyes: An example of a person whos been brainwashed by Hollywood media.
 

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"Listen, I really liked talking with you, and would love to continue our conversation... may i have your number?"
NEVER EVER "May I...or ask"...tell her you ARE going to call her when she gives you her number.


You'll just have to hope I run into you again sometime."
Perfect opportunity to set something up..."I dont rely on HOPE so much, but im free for a bit on tuesday, lets grab some coffee"

I buy her bro another drink and ask him whats up with her. he goes on to say how she is insanely independent, doesn't date, has never seen a guy pick up on her
1. stop buying drinks!!...and that was your key to use key information her bro gave you. when she gets back from the bathroom..." Hey from the vibe your giving me i would believe you dont date much, never have guys successfully hit on you, and you seem madly independent...im sure im right, ..lets get some coffee wednesday and talk about it"

At a bar with my buddy having a beer. Two guys and a girl walk up start ordering drinks right next to me. Girl is incredibly attractive. I immediately start conversation with them.
...whatever happen to your buddy, cant just ditch the crew...looks desperate

p.s. overall...love the persistence
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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he did alright. persistance is good. I think she was used to being chased and like to play hard to get. how old is she? age group.
 

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shock said:
I can see your point, but at the same time she was with her brother and friend. Buying them drinks was a good gesture. He minded his own business while I hit on his sister in a bar right next to him. haha, it kept everyone happy and got them on my side. IMO that was good tact on my part.






I mean sure a part of me is a bit dissapointed that I didn't close, but if anything this just goes to show the marvels of being a challenge. Her ambiguity and lack of info she had to offer, only made me that much more curious. Sure, maybe she was a total bitc*, but maybe she was infact just a bit uptight in the bar scene, and my persistance could have payed off. Gotta give her the benefit of the doubt. Can't be upset she wasn't a total slut, that'd be too easy. haha Sure I could have next'ed her and moved on to some fluzie, but this girl challenged me an unfamiliar way. thats why i spent time with her.

I played the game. Didn't win, didn't lose. But I still played it..
I think you did the right thing, like someone said here, better get rejection than regrets.
 

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Sounds good to me. At least he didn't give up like most of you guys would've. You're all so trigger-happy with your NEXTing, its insane. I'd be more interested in a girl like this than a cheap easy lay anytime. I'd at least take it to a first date, to get a better feel for her personality. If she turned out to be a loony, that's when I'd move on.
 
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