"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sexually conservative girl...?

Aldo

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I've been talking to this one girl for a while now. I picked up on my mistakes with another girl and have been more sexual with this girl.

She teases me, I tease her. We talk about random things. I'm also doing some nice kino such as putting my arm around her, touching her hands, etc.

However, I've run into a little problem. Whenever I mention sexual subjects, she's either oblivious or conservative about it. For example, I talked about how it's good to see a girl's thong once in a while, and she's like "No, that's never good". I've made some sexual innuendos before too and it went over her head.

So my question is this: How can I advance sexually with a girl who is sexually conservative?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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YogurtSlinger

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Don't corrupt her. Find yourself a wh0re and move on to her.
 

Bladerunner

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YogurtSlinger said:
Don't corrupt her. Find yourself a wh0re and move on to her.
Truly. The sheer amount of energy you'll have to put into undoing 15+ years of "SEX IS BAD" conditioning isn't even close to worth it, if it's even possible. Go find a sexual girl and you will save yourself a great deal of frustration. Doesn't have to be the school wh0re, just a sexual being like yourself.
 

eaglez1177

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Aldo said:
I've been talking to this one girl for a while now. I picked up on my mistakes with another girl and have been more sexual with this girl.

She teases me, I tease her. We talk about random things. I'm also doing some nice kino such as putting my arm around her, touching her hands, etc.

However, I've run into a little problem. Whenever I mention sexual subjects, she's either oblivious or conservative about it. For example, I talked about how it's good to see a girl's thong once in a while, and she's like "No, that's never good". I've made some sexual innuendos before too and it went over her head.

So my question is this: How can I advance sexually with a girl who is sexually conservative?
Well if you have any notion that shes oblivious, I would just really try to make the sexual innuendos easier to catch and more obvious.

And the thong example you gave isnt too great. Of course she would say something like that, because NO girl wants her thong to be hanging out. Lol thats just common sense its not being conservative. When have you ever seen a chick purposely let her thong hang out? Never.

If you really want to find the truth over whether she is "conservative" or not, hang out with her and see how far you get.
 

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if you want sex find another girl. I had a girl like that once. Its just a total mess. Even if you get her to do some sexual stuff her guilt will kick in and shell blame you for corrupting her and forcing her to do things. It's just a can of worms not worth dealing with.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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rexx07

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Had a similar case too...as much as i tried i didn't get a thing from her...had to let go and i'll suggest you do the same
 
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