"Sexual State" leading to sex=LMR/buyers remorse?

[sstype]

I think "sexual state" gets way too much credit here. From my experience, sexual state can lead to some kind of action but does not mean the girl is attracted to you.

Gunwitch summed it up in one of his posts. You will more likely to fool around/have sex with a average lookin/plain jane if she were to seduce you and know one else knew about it. The fact no one will find out coupled from you getting horny from her "sexual state/seduction" will lead to "buyers remorse" the next day. I know for a fact that if i ever fooled around with a fat chick/plane jane or any girl i wasnt attracted to, i would do my best to avoid her afterwards.

Look im not trying to burst any bubbles here, but all this talk of being "sexual" without any kind of attraction or comfort from the other side will lead to

a) creeping the girl out
b) encountering heavy LMR
c) maybe sex, but then buyers remorse

This could be potentially dangerous as well. Not trying to instill any paranoia, but if you sleeping/fooling with her puts her character/reputation on the line with society (family or friends find out), she could say you raped or assaulted her. Again im not trying to scare anyone from ever interacting with women but given today's anti-male legal system, one accusation (regardless of its validity) could ruin you.

Sorry if i went off on a tangent there...

My point being is i did this "super seductive aura" thing with girls that had mid-to-low interest in me and all it did was get their juices flowing at the spur of the moment, nothing more.

I was basically the preverbial "aggressive plain looking fat chick"

What guy here wants to be viewed that way though?
Sure you might get a couple lays/makeouts here and there, but wouldnt you rather the girl be sexually excited and actively cooperating to get to the dirty deed, or deal with "overcoming LMR" and "breaking ASD" with someone that may not even be on the same level towards you sexually.

if supposedly girls like sex as much as guys do, then there is no reason for any of that "im not that kind of girl" LMR bs

"im not that kind of girl"=im not sexually attracted to you highly enough to make me want to rip your clothes off.

 

[( . )( . )]

You have a point, Getting her in that sexual state can be hit and miss without solid rapport, but the 2 together is the way to go.

And often all your doing is just raising her buying temperature for some other douche. I have a mate whos famous for this, gets the chick all worked up does all the hard yards but gets cold feet because of his Mrs and kid at home, tools himself and the chick ends up going home with some other guy who doesnt need to get her in state whatsoever, for some reason he enjoys it though. I think Tyler Durden wrote a post on the whole buying temp thing.

Yeah it is given alot of credit here, just on its own its counterproductive. But without it your just a eunich and a friend to her and you wont get very far on the path to her vagina.

 

[sstype]

yeah, im not totally discrediting it. if the girl is highly attracted to you, "sexual state" will help raise the already high buying temp to a point where SHE is the one pushing for isolation and sex. And since you are in a position where she values you (i.e highly attracted to you in some way), she will be staying around as long as you are not a social retard or sumthin.

But a girl thats not attracted to you or is somewhat but not highly attracted to you, then sexual state right off the bat more than likely will backfire in your face. Better to play it cool the first couple of dates to develop rapport/comfort/attraction. If then she's comfortable f*cking you, great. if not, next or place on the backburner and find a more interested girl

 

[Lust]

I think "sexual state" gets way too much credit here. From my experience, sexual state can lead to some kind of action but does not mean the girl is attracted to you.

Gunwitch summed it up in one of his posts. You will more likely to fool around/have sex with a average lookin/plain jane if she were to seduce you and know one else knew about it. The fact no one will find out coupled from you getting horny from her "sexual state/seduction" will lead to "buyers remorse" the next day. I know for a fact that if i ever fooled around with a fat chick/plane jane or any girl i wasnt attracted to, i would do my best to avoid her afterwards.

Look im not trying to burst any bubbles here, but all this talk of being "sexual" without any kind of attraction or comfort from the other side will lead to

a) creeping the girl out
b) encountering heavy LMR
c) maybe sex, but then buyers remorse

This could be potentially dangerous as well. Not trying to instill any paranoia, but if you sleeping/fooling with her puts her character/reputation on the line with society (family or friends find out), she could say you raped or assaulted her. Again im not trying to scare anyone from ever interacting with women but given today's anti-male legal system, one accusation (regardless of its validity) could ruin you.

Sorry if i went off on a tangent there...

My point being is i did this "super seductive aura" thing with girls that had mid-to-low interest in me and all it did was get their juices flowing at the spur of the moment, nothing more.

I was basically the preverbial "aggressive plain looking fat chick"

What guy here wants to be viewed that way though?
Sure you might get a couple lays/makeouts here and there, but wouldnt you rather the girl be sexually excited and actively cooperating to get to the dirty deed, or deal with "overcoming LMR" and "breaking ASD" with someone that may not even be on the same level towards you sexually.

if supposedly girls like sex as much as guys do, then there is no reason for any of that "im not that kind of girl" LMR bs

"im not that kind of girl"=im not sexually attracted to you highly enough to make me want to rip your clothes off.

Means you need to practice more, take your game up a notch.

Make sure you have attraction first, then move onto the rapport building, and last, the seduction.

Following that model will reduce LMR and increase attraction.

 

[abcd_z]

Lust: Hmmm, where have I seen that model before? ^_-

Yeah, from what I understand, Gunwitch Method is great for screening for women who want to have sex relatively quickly. In other words, fool's mates. Lots of women won't be up for that, but the point of GWM isn't really to run proper game.

 

[thirtyplus]

I think "sexual state" gets way too much credit here. From my experience, sexual state can lead to some kind of action but does not mean the girl is attracted to you.

Look im not trying to burst any bubbles here, but all this talk of being "sexual" without any kind of attraction or comfort from the other side will lead to

a) creeping the girl out
b) encountering heavy LMR
c) maybe sex, but then buyers remorse

That's because different guys give off different levels of comfort and trust AUTOMATICALLY.

It's like a vibe. Every guy vibes a different level of trust. Some guys vibe that they are "dangerous". Some guys vibe that they are extremely trustworthy. So you have to calibrate.

If a girl is creeped out, you're giving off an insecure/needy vibe.

A guy that vibes that he is REALLY TRUSTWORTHY and INSTANTLY makes girls comfortable will have to work on generating more ATTRACTION.

A guy that is DANGEROUS-looking will have to work on getting some C&T just to prevent the girls from running off.

Remember that comfort and trust are the ANATHEMA to speed seduction. C&T SLOW THINGS DOWN.

Attraction = gas
C&T = brakes

When a girl stops sex and says "I think we need to trust each other more first" It's not because she ACTUALLY wants more C&T. That is the kiss of death. It's because she is NOT ATTRACTED ENOUGH YET.

Instead, get her more attracted and she will rip your clothes off.

Don't imagine that high sexual state automatically generates high attraction in a woman. If that were true every super-horny geek who went out to a nightclub would get ALL the girls wet, because he would be the horniest (most sexual state) guy there.

Instead the guys that REALLY get girls wet a lot of times have sex as the LAST thing on their mind.

Again, there is NO CORRELATION between how horny YOU are and how horny SHE gets, unless by means of emotional transcription you are able to CHANGE HER STATE from "normal girl / bored / whatever" to "highly attracted / highly aroused".

And it takes more than a boner in her ass to make that change.

 

[sstype]

That's because different guys give off different levels of comfort and trust AUTOMATICALLY.

It's like a vibe. Every guy vibes a different level of trust. Some guys vibe that they are "dangerous". Some guys vibe that they are extremely trustworthy. So you have to calibrate.

If a girl is creeped out, you're giving off an insecure/needy vibe.

A guy that vibes that he is REALLY TRUSTWORTHY and INSTANTLY makes girls comfortable will have to work on generating more ATTRACTION.

A guy that is DANGEROUS-looking will have to work on getting some C&T just to prevent the girls from running off.

Remember that comfort and trust are the ANATHEMA to speed seduction. C&T SLOW THINGS DOWN.

Attraction = gas
C&T = brakes

When a girl stops sex and says "I think we need to trust each other more first" It's not because she ACTUALLY wants more C&T. That is the kiss of death. It's because she is NOT ATTRACTED ENOUGH YET.

Instead, get her more attracted and she will rip your clothes off.

Don't imagine that high sexual state automatically generates high attraction in a woman. If that were true every super-horny geek who went out to a nightclub would get ALL the girls wet, because he would be the horniest (most sexual state) guy there.

Instead the guys that REALLY get girls wet a lot of times have sex as the LAST thing on their mind.

Again, there is NO CORRELATION between how horny YOU are and how horny SHE gets, unless by means of emotional transcription you are able to CHANGE HER STATE from "normal girl / bored / whatever" to "highly attracted / highly aroused".

And it takes more than a boner in her ass to make that change.

This makes a lot of sense. Congruency and definitely not coming off needy is key to developing a strong mutual attraction.

Patience is also important as well. PUA thought kind of instilled this idea in my head that if i did not close the girl in any way on the FIRST date that I would be LJBF'd automatically. It would have made things a lot easier if I had just waited until at least the 3rd date to attempt any kind of "move" on the girl. Not only does that give me more time to create a stronger attraction/comfort, but it also shows the girl that you are not just out to get in her pants the first night.

Of course if by then there was still LMR/ASD I would just drop the girl for someone that was more attracted to me...

 

[Last Man Standing]

DJF or John will have some harsh words with you!! Sexual state works for getting hors but not women!! Since most are hors today this sexual state works quite well!!

 

[sstype]

DJF or John will have some harsh words with you!! Sexual state works for getting hors but not women!! Since most are hors today this sexual state works quite well!!

I take DJF's advice with a grain of salt given his history on SoSuave.

Even though I am anti-feminist, I do not subscribe to any of your extremist views on sexuality/women. Your arguement is null and void. No hard feelings.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Even though I am anti-feminist, I do not subscribe to any of your extremist views on sexuality/women. Your arguement is null and void. No hard feelings.

Truth is not extreme, rather it is quite ordinary!!! Those who abide in falsehoods are extreme - no hard feelings kid!!! I have made no arguments so that which is not expressed cannot be refuted!!!

 

[sstype]

Truth is not extreme, rather it is quite ordinary!!! Those who abide in falsehoods are extreme - no hard feelings kid!!!

Your perception and views (or truth if thats what you want to call it) is based on the sum of your positive and negative experiences with women.

Your views reflect that of someone who has had many negative experiences with women.

Again no hard feelings

 

[Last Man Standing]

I have never had any negative experiences with women - only with hors - as it should be since hors are only to give negative experiences! I speak from neither perceptions or views but only from reality!! Wake up, "The Matrix" has you!!

 

[sstype]

I have never had any negative experiences with women - only with hors - as it should be since hors are only to give negative experiences! I speak from neither perceptions or views but only from reality!! Wake up, "The Matrix" has you!!

I have woken up, I just refuse to enslave myself to your "Matrix" of thought. Which is just as harmful and dangerous as the previous. I give each and every person the benefit of the doubt before I pass any judgement

 

[Last Man Standing]

I have woken up, I just refuse to enslave myself to your "Matrix" of thought. Which is just as harmful and dangerous as the previous.

This is an abstract statement - do you wish to clarify?

 

[sstype]

This is an abstract statement - do you wish to clarify?

Basically Im saying don't go from one extreme (supplicant doormat thinking all women are innocent angels)

to another(bitter angry man thinking most women are hors)

 

[Last Man Standing]

Why would one be bitter because a hor chooses to be a hor? You don't make sense!!! It is the hor who is bitter for men rejecting her in this sullied state - it is only a chump (AFC) who accepts her in this fallen state!! Join the ranks of men and say, "No To HOS!!!!"!!!!!

 

[sstype]

Why would one be bitter because a hor chooses to be a hor? You don't make sense!!! It is the hor who is bitter for men rejecting her in this sullied state - it is only a chump (AFC) who accepts her in this fallen state!! Join the ranks of men and say, "No To HOS!!!!"!!!!!

All of your posts espouse the evils of the conniving hor. You are also way older than me and a self-admitted virgin. No offense sir but that sounds bitter to me. I promise if you were in some kind of relationship with a quality woman you would not be here every night ranting your "truths/reality"

 

[Obsidian]

What is LMR?

 

[00Kevin]

All of your posts espouse the evils of the conniving hor. You are also way older than me and a self-admitted virgin. No offense sir but that sounds bitter to me. I promise if you were in some kind of relationship with a quality woman you would not be here every night ranting your "truths/reality"

There are many evils of the conniving hor. The product of the hor is the AFC and all those poor bastards who are used as emotional tampons while standing in line for *****.

You see there are two kinds of women one for relationships and the other for hormongering.

I truely hope that you do not think that you can have a good relationship with one of those "slu-ts in the city" .

 

[LegendBoy]

DJF or John will have some harsh words with you!! Sexual state works for getting hors but not women!! Since most are hors today this sexual state works quite well!!

Ye you got it exactly right. It works on *****s not on conservative chicks. But as you said majority are *****s.

I found this whole sexual state worked 2 days ago.

By the way what is LMR?