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Sexual frequency: what is normal?

viking22

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I think perhaps I do not have that high a sex drive.

Generally the first couple of nights with a girl I can have sex two times a night and again in the morning

After that it is more like once a night and in the morning I usually am more interested in coffee and freshening up ready for work.

I can last a decent amount of time which girls tend to appreciate. But quite a few of the girls I'm with are always begging for more sex and I'm not sure if they are being unreasonable or if the problem is me
 

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I'm not saying that this is your problem, but based on the girls I used to date I've found that women usually want more sex an hour later or the next morning is because they were never really fully satisfied. The reason why you're ok and just want coffee is because you were satisfied and don't need anymore.

Think about this.... if the girl stopped sex before you got your nut off, you would go to sleep with this built up load and by the morning you'll be dying to let it out.

Best thing to do is to find out if the woman's being satisfied or not. This is tricky because you may tend to come off being needy and unconfident, and she may lie to you just so she won't hurt your feelings. You have to do this with great tact.
 

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Are you saying if I give her an orgasm by whatever means she is less likely to want further rounds of sex?

In my experience girls are insatiable and even when Im pretty sure I've made her cvm she is still asking when ill be ready again
 

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viking22 said:
Are you saying if I give her an orgasm by whatever means she is less likely to want further rounds of sex?

In my experience girls are insatiable and even when Im pretty sure I've made her cvm she is still asking when ill be ready again
All women are different. While almost all women have great sex drives, some look at sex mentally in different ways.

Some women will have sex whenever, however, with whoever. These women tend to not see sex as something *special* but as just a daily routine.

Other women do like sex, but they choose to believe that they only want to have sex at the right times (aka when they are mentally turned on). These women won't condone sex as a recreational activity like smoking a cigarette. However, if they let you get them all hot and bothered then they are done for.

Either way, most if not all women want and enjoy sex. They just want it conveyed to them in different ways.

Sex twice at night and once in the morning is more than enough. Depending on how rough the sex is, some women won't even be able to do this regularly.

If you are feeling the need to NOT have sex in the morning, that is a good thing. Your daily life should not be revolving around wanting/having sex.
 

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viking22 said:
Are you saying if I give her an orgasm by whatever means she is less likely to want further rounds of sex?

In my experience girls are insatiable and even when Im pretty sure I've made her cvm she is still asking when ill be ready again
Like WC2 said, all women are different. That is why in my first post I started it off with "I'm not sure if this is your problem". My point was that the best thing to do is communicate with the women and ask her. But again, do this very tactfully.
 

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Im 25

Been with this girl maybe two month now. We've spent the night together around six times.

Don S it sounds like you have the same sort of frequency as me. Do you ever get complaints from girls?

Like you I remember many times a night when I was a teenager but maybe the years have been hard on me because that seems like a distant memory

WC2 that is an interesting analysis. I think I've been with both types of girls. Personally I think some girls are sexually dormant and when they meet a guy they like their sex drive kicks in.

Dragon that sounds like a tricky conversation. I guess I could ask after I've finished if there is anything I can do for her.

I guess my insecurity is that there are other guys out there in their sexual prime who could keep going all night long. Maybe those guys cannot stimulate her intellectually and emotionally like I can, but in the past I was seeing a girl who I later discovered was having one night stands behind my back so maybe if I cannot meet this girls sexual needs she will either dump me or cheat on me
 

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Viking - are you talking 12 minute romps or 90 minute sessions?

At 25 years old you know a LOT more than when you were 18. But you'll know a helluva lot more in another 5, 10 or 15 years than you do now. I'm
34 and now feel like I was an idiot when it came to sex when I was 25 (even though at the time I thought I knew plenty)

Longer "sessions" tend to get it out of their system a bit more and leave them wanting more the next time as well.

A girl I've been with for a while now loves sex and almost wants it more than I do. Sometimes twice a night and most mornings as well. Some of those are < 15 minutes but several times a week we will spend 2+hours in bed.

When I say 90 minute "sessions" - I'm not talking about actual intercourse for that long - I mean starting from the minute you begin fondling/kissing. Women like sex as much as we do and they like to cvm as much as we do - if you build her up right it won't take her long to get there once you are inside her.

Also - keep them guessing - tease her and let her think about it - throughout the day or the evening. Much of this depends on how close you are and if she is just another plate or if she is someone you spend most evenings with. They love anticipation - prey upon that.

If it's a Friday and you know you'll be staying together that night and you know you're going to have sex - if you talk or text to her during the day - slip in some well placed "naughty" comments - make her wonder about it AND you. Gotta be smooth about those - not gross. Girls love that stuff - pick up some women's erotic reading or those cheezy romance novels. Go to the Sex section at Barnes and Noble - look at how many erotic story books there are - they wouldn't write them if they weren't selling. Penthouse forums? Those are for women, not men. At least imho.

Some people might disagree with my tactics - but what this does is keeps her thinking about what you're going to do to her next, what you'll bring to the table next - and makes for an incredible time together. I think it will make her want it regularly and you will probably be more sure that you did make her cvm - because she'll have it on her mind and be anticipating the encounter. When you take your time with her and get to her to almost beg for it, she'll be putty in your hands.
 
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