"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Sexual frequency: do I have a problem
- Thread starter hansol
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
FrogWife
Don Juan
We do?? I've never made fun of a man for this reason nor I have ever heard any of my girlfriends ever in my life do this... SHEESH - you guys are full of bitter misinformation... (but you already know that, right?samspade said:
Sorry guys I'm on my blackberry, so I have to keep this short. Here's the deal: After she texted me her little bit about her friend banging 7 times a day and my having a problrm, she says she isn't sure she can be with someone who only wants sex once a night, blah blah. I didn't say anything for a few hours. Got back to her later saying "So are we hanging out?" (Sounds weak I know, but it was appropriate given the prior context of the day) She says "ummm, not so much." Then it gets funny:
I said "well that's silly. I just got home from dinner with (random chick). I want to f*ck. She was boring and I want to see you." At the exact same time she send me "I'm done with this. Sorry." I actually laughed to myself, and said "Lol oh nvm then. Totally misread you this afternoon. Awkward." Then went silent, figuring that was it. About an hour later I get hit with woman-ese that makes no sense to me. She says "you didn't misread me. I like you, and I was telling you how I felt and looking for you to offer a solution. I told you I want to make this work?"
Now I'm thinking this is ridiculous, if you want to have this conversation with me then its gonna be face to face, not via text. So I said "I'm gonna finish shovelling (its snowing in my neck of the woods) and ill swing by for a bit." I get hit with "NO! I don't want to see you. " I read that, got irritated, and went to bed.
Haven't talked to this chick since last night, and am not totally sure how to play this. Hell, I can't even figure out what this chick wants at this point, other than sex 7 times a day apparently. Can anyone decipher what just happened and how to play this? I'm stumped, as is my wingman.
I said "well that's silly. I just got home from dinner with (random chick). I want to f*ck. She was boring and I want to see you." At the exact same time she send me "I'm done with this. Sorry." I actually laughed to myself, and said "Lol oh nvm then. Totally misread you this afternoon. Awkward." Then went silent, figuring that was it. About an hour later I get hit with woman-ese that makes no sense to me. She says "you didn't misread me. I like you, and I was telling you how I felt and looking for you to offer a solution. I told you I want to make this work?"
Now I'm thinking this is ridiculous, if you want to have this conversation with me then its gonna be face to face, not via text. So I said "I'm gonna finish shovelling (its snowing in my neck of the woods) and ill swing by for a bit." I get hit with "NO! I don't want to see you.
" I read that, got irritated, and went to bed. Haven't talked to this chick since last night, and am not totally sure how to play this. Hell, I can't even figure out what this chick wants at this point, other than sex 7 times a day apparently. Can anyone decipher what just happened and how to play this? I'm stumped, as is my wingman.
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Scaramouche,
#1. Work a lot. If I'm not working at the firm, I'm studying. Used to do labour/ex military, but that's in my past now. These days Im an office weanie.
#2. Rarely if ever drink. The occasional Old Fashioned once every 3 months.
#3. I'm not sure how to answer this. I get hot for her sure, but she isn't a 9.5 or anything. And I find that if I wait a few days, I really want to bang her. If I'm getting it every night twice a night, I'm more blase and don't care if I get it or not.
#4 I have been spinning plates. There are a few numbers on my phone that I can text that are a guaranteed hook-up. This current girl started as a plate, but the more time we spent together the cooler and more "attractive" she got to me.
#5 No, these days I don't sleep enough. My typical schedule was to bed at 10pm, up at 5am. With the amount this chick wants me to bang, I'm getting closer to 5 hours of fitful sleep a night.
#6 No, not overweight. Probably more on the skinny side of things. I have a hard time gaining weight; my metabolism is insane. I put on weight in the army, but that was because I had unlimited food and could work out 7 days a week. Harder to do these days with all the time I put in at the office, plus studies, but I do try and get in a workout 3 times a week if possible.
I do have access to Cialis or Viagra, so I might start resorting to that for a "Friday Night" marathon sex fallback, with hopes of that possbily placating this chick, but I have my doubts. Something needs to give here though, because trying to keep her satisfied sexually is cutting into my "Empire building" ie career and studies. That's why I was so put off when she says her "friend" bangs 7 times a day; **** that. What guy even has time enough to fit in 50 bangs a week? I have more important **** to do than that.
#1. Work a lot. If I'm not working at the firm, I'm studying. Used to do labour/ex military, but that's in my past now. These days Im an office weanie.
#2. Rarely if ever drink. The occasional Old Fashioned once every 3 months.
#3. I'm not sure how to answer this. I get hot for her sure, but she isn't a 9.5 or anything. And I find that if I wait a few days, I really want to bang her. If I'm getting it every night twice a night, I'm more blase and don't care if I get it or not.
#4 I have been spinning plates. There are a few numbers on my phone that I can text that are a guaranteed hook-up. This current girl started as a plate, but the more time we spent together the cooler and more "attractive" she got to me.
#5 No, these days I don't sleep enough. My typical schedule was to bed at 10pm, up at 5am. With the amount this chick wants me to bang, I'm getting closer to 5 hours of fitful sleep a night.
#6 No, not overweight. Probably more on the skinny side of things. I have a hard time gaining weight; my metabolism is insane. I put on weight in the army, but that was because I had unlimited food and could work out 7 days a week. Harder to do these days with all the time I put in at the office, plus studies, but I do try and get in a workout 3 times a week if possible.
I do have access to Cialis or Viagra, so I might start resorting to that for a "Friday Night" marathon sex fallback, with hopes of that possbily placating this chick, but I have my doubts. Something needs to give here though, because trying to keep her satisfied sexually is cutting into my "Empire building" ie career and studies. That's why I was so put off when she says her "friend" bangs 7 times a day; **** that. What guy even has time enough to fit in 50 bangs a week? I have more important **** to do than that.
Scaramouche said:
Stagger Lee
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This girl is the worst piece of crap. If there ever was a case of nexting and going no contact that you always hear suggested on here, this is one idea case. You should've nexted her the moment she started coming up with that "7 times a day every day" crap.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Greasy Pig,
" I took a full Viagra recently and it did fvck all. Maybe it was fake? I got it off a mate who swore it was legit.".......Most surprising,although it wont work with diabetics....But in your case maybe your mate was passed a dud.....I bought Viagra in Cambodia for US$6 and they were fine,though the placebo effect can't be ruled out...I doubt the latter as they still had the side effect that I woke up ready to go LOL.
" I took a full Viagra recently and it did fvck all. Maybe it was fake? I got it off a mate who swore it was legit.".......Most surprising,although it wont work with diabetics....But in your case maybe your mate was passed a dud.....I bought Viagra in Cambodia for US$6 and they were fine,though the placebo effect can't be ruled out...I doubt the latter as they still had the side effect that I woke up ready to go LOL.
Yeah. Last time she pulled something stupid, I didn't talk to her for a week. Then I texted her for random sex, and decided to go full caveman and basically hate f*ck her. She loved it. I loved it. Then she had surgery so she's been temporarily laid up for the last little while, so that kinda put a damper on things in the interim. Still can bang, just not as crazy as before.
Slickster said:
Coolidge effect, look it up.
Also, there's a reason she's just a plate, right? She's attractive enough to bang when you're bored, but not so hot that you cant get enough of. Hence the frequency of sex. Been there myself.
Also, there's a reason she's just a plate, right? She's attractive enough to bang when you're bored, but not so hot that you cant get enough of. Hence the frequency of sex. Been there myself.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Scaramouche
Master Don Juan
Dear Hansol,
I read your reply to my thoughts.....You are perfectly normal,maybe her demands are making things worst,playing with your mind,creating thoughts of sexual inadequacy,this in itself is a self fulfilling prophecy......She is a little abnormal in her needs,many Men,myself included would see this Girl as a Jewel amongst Women.......Bettina Arndt in "The svex Diaries",suggested that amongst her 110 odd respondents,all having svexually related relationship problems,maybe 7% or so were,like your yours....I have never struck a Girl like yours,I don't think my ego could handle any Woman with a higher Svexual drive than mine!
I read your reply to my thoughts.....You are perfectly normal,maybe her demands are making things worst,playing with your mind,creating thoughts of sexual inadequacy,this in itself is a self fulfilling prophecy......She is a little abnormal in her needs,many Men,myself included would see this Girl as a Jewel amongst Women.......Bettina Arndt in "The svex Diaries",suggested that amongst her 110 odd respondents,all having svexually related relationship problems,maybe 7% or so were,like your yours....I have never struck a Girl like yours,I don't think my ego could handle any Woman with a higher Svexual drive than mine!
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
with all due respect OP this girl is bat**** crazy. she is basically saving your life lol. let her go.
JulieWatson31
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She is a strange girl with a useless tiny hamster brain.
You are well above normal in both desire and sexual frequency.
FYI I normally bang once a night and have never had complaints.
Move on!
You are well above normal in both desire and sexual frequency.
FYI I normally bang once a night and have never had complaints.
Move on!