"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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sexual encounter threshold?

disgustipated

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I don't know if its my age, 38, or work making me tired or what. This is the first time in my life that the opportunity of guaranteed sex does not make me lose my rational mind. Is there a magic number you hit do you think where it just ceases to have the hold over you any more....encounter number wise?

I've been with over 20 women now and have seen a lot of different poon, bodies, had diff kinds of sex, seen tons o porn too...I mean is there a saturation point? Last week an ed spent the weekend with me and I turned her down twice because of some bull****s she pulled while shopping, something I wouldn't have done before. Another time I cut it off with a girl I was dating even though she had exactly the type of body I love...I mean stacked. I resented the fact that I thought she was playing games subtly, but I felt sex was imminent if I stuck in there. Didn't feel the payoff was worth my self respect.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I've experienced the exact same thing. Been there, done that, got the trophy. Its really no big deal now days.
 

speed dawg

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Hmmm....and this is what the anti-marriage guys are aiming for?
 

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well I've been with a lot less women and have the same situation going on.

I'm 38

In one situtation a few months back I stayed over, but purposely not initiated sex when I knew 100% I could get it.

years ago (before getting wiser after joining this site) I would have done anything to get it. Now not so much. I won't be played.

thank goodness I found this forum when I did.
 

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Not sure about any age/number. Think it's just when we reach the BS limit. I've taken all I'm ever taking
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Danger said:
I believe it is exactly that mentality that drives them crazy. That you can't be manipulated.

I turned a lot of girls down back in the day, often for the reason that I didn't care for their attitude or manipulations. It drove them crazy and I honestly think it drove a lot of girls to sleep with me.

I'm probably approaching 100 now but I often wonder what my number would be if I had just gone ahead and slept with them. Would it have hurt me or helped me?

I am guessing it would have been a short-term gain but a long-term loss, simply because giving up self-respect for pu$$y may seem like a good idea at the moment, but it never ends up that way.
This.

If you're not managing your frame, you're just supplicating for sex which makes you AFC.
 
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