"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

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Sex Issues

WORKEROUTER

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I started going out with this girl (who's pretty much totally inexperienced when it comes to anything past making out). I've fingered her and all, felt her up, etc. We've had a lot of "dry" sex, which really isn't pleasurable.

Two things irritate me. First, she wants to hold off on having sex. I don't understand the reason for this. I made it clear that it is a necessary and important part of a relationship but that I understand she isn't very experienced. Still, it's irritating. Second, she went down on me once for a few minutes (not very stimulating) and kept complaining. I had to direct everything. The next time we started doing stuff I told her to go down on me, and she said she didn't want to. Well I got kinda pissed off and was ready to walk out.

Anyway, what's the deal with this? Is her lack of experience responsible for her insecurity of doing more sexual stuff? This is what it seems like. Also, how would you guys handle this?

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Well one thing is for sure.

Getting mad at her, demanding oral, and pressuring her isn't going to work.

Most young inexperienced chicks need to feel comfort and security before they'll give it up. Which means more work for you. I sense you'll have to be very patient. Try escalating things slowly a little bit more each encounter. If she wants to stop then you must not get angry. Your job is to turn her on to the point where she must have you. A "little" booze usually helps. I stress a LITTLE. Don't get her shytfaced.

Good luck
 

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Originally posted by Slickster
Well one thing is for sure.

Getting mad at her, demanding oral, and pressuring her isn't going to work.

Most young inexperienced chicks need to feel comfort and security before they'll give it up. Which means more work for you. I sense you'll have to be very patient. Try escalating things slowly a little bit more each encounter. If she wants to stop then you must not get angry. Your job is to turn her on to the point where she must have you. A "little" booze usually helps. I stress a LITTLE. Don't get her shytfaced.

Good luck
Ya, I pretty much just told her to go down and give me oral. I'll have to have a little more patience.

But what are the best ways to raise her comfort and security level?
 

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Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
But what are the best ways to raise her comfort and security level?
kiss from the neck down and then do the "belly button test" if its all good eat da pvssy.
 
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