Last night, she was on my couch. I stroked her hair. We were talking about random stuff. The atmosphere was slow and sleepy. Peaceful. Her eyes were closed most of the time. I started to stroke her hair in a more sensual way. She said, “Your touching my head seems more sexual now.”
I said, “Does it matter?” She said, “Not really.”
I spoon her, that is, I wrap my leg around her waist loosely. There's a pillow in between us, but that's there because I put it there. We talk. She rubs her face against my hand, like a cat, and licks my hand, my forearm, it feels so good... She says, “Wow, I can feel your leg twitching under the pillow.” It's true, they're shuddering from the pleasure.
She has a boyfriend.
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Oh, where ARE my manners? Let me introduce myself. I'm Vicious, known as Villain on other forums for high school PUAs, like High School PUA forum and teen-game.com. I have little to no experience with girls, am looking to learn, and I need advice for this situation. Was recommended this forum by DanZy.
The situation:
She's a beautiful Asian girl . A 9 or 10 on the looks range, for me. I'd be hard-pressed to find a girl I'm more physically attracted to. She's pretty open to touching than most people in general, especially with her brother Tai.
Let's call her Zee. She's not socially well-connected. Usually hangs out with her brother's social outcast group. Sometimes hangs with her group of normal friends who bore her, or her boyfriend. She's playful, energetic, open, nice, perverted (a bit) , touchy, and random. Almost all I could want.
I made friends with her brother, Tai, to get closer to her. It worked.
Over the past three weeks I've known them, I go by their house pretty often. The degree of intimate touching between me and Zee has increased. To list as many as I can think of, quickly:
She dared me to give her a lapdance in truth or dare, and I did(twice). Held her hand for a small while because it tied in with the lyric of a song she was singing out loud. She licked my hand while we did that, with other people around. Stroked her hair, which calms her and puts her into a relaxed, calm state, at my house twice, the first time with her brother there, the second time just me and her. Came by my locker after the first time I stroked her hair, put my hand into her hair, moaned. People we don't know around, again . Stroked her hair at her house, with her head in my lap, with people around, with her Mom in the house. Had her lie down across the laps of a guy friend, a girl, and me, while I massaged her knees and legs.
Etc.
So here is the problem. Usually all this touching means that I'm in. But, this is not an ordinary girl, as I mentioned earlier. The small comments she drops about wishing I was her brother, or wishing she was my adopted daughter, or sister, how I have no ulterior motives...maybe this means I'm a neutered, genderless friend, almost a cousin. She's said, at one point, “I really don't care about people touching me. It's okay.” Maybe being Tai's sister does that. But I doubt any other guy other than her boyfriend goes as far as I do, and maybe not even then.
My gay friend, who claims to be able to read people well, thinks she does like me. At least a little.
I've really got no choice but to escalate. The problem is HOW? All I've got so far, is invite her back to my house for some hair stroking, then kiss her neck, or rub my hand against her hips, or something.
The boyfriend doesn't really matter to me. She doesn't seem to care too much about him. I mean, I ask about him that first time, and she says “He's ok.” I just want to be able to deal with it if she brings him up. Which, considering THIS-
(she licked me or something)
My guy friend: “But you have a boyfriend!”
Her: “Yeahh...don't tell him.”
-seems unlikely.
How should I escalate smoothly (specifics), with minimum awkwardness? How should I handle if she brings up the boyfriend? SHOULD I even escalate? How do I get to kissing? Is my current plan fine as is or should I do something else?
I said, “Does it matter?” She said, “Not really.”
I spoon her, that is, I wrap my leg around her waist loosely. There's a pillow in between us, but that's there because I put it there. We talk. She rubs her face against my hand, like a cat, and licks my hand, my forearm, it feels so good... She says, “Wow, I can feel your leg twitching under the pillow.” It's true, they're shuddering from the pleasure.
She has a boyfriend.
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Oh, where ARE my manners? Let me introduce myself. I'm Vicious, known as Villain on other forums for high school PUAs, like High School PUA forum and teen-game.com. I have little to no experience with girls, am looking to learn, and I need advice for this situation. Was recommended this forum by DanZy.
The situation:
She's a beautiful Asian girl . A 9 or 10 on the looks range, for me. I'd be hard-pressed to find a girl I'm more physically attracted to. She's pretty open to touching than most people in general, especially with her brother Tai.
Let's call her Zee. She's not socially well-connected. Usually hangs out with her brother's social outcast group. Sometimes hangs with her group of normal friends who bore her, or her boyfriend. She's playful, energetic, open, nice, perverted (a bit) , touchy, and random. Almost all I could want.
I made friends with her brother, Tai, to get closer to her. It worked.
Over the past three weeks I've known them, I go by their house pretty often. The degree of intimate touching between me and Zee has increased. To list as many as I can think of, quickly:
She dared me to give her a lapdance in truth or dare, and I did(twice). Held her hand for a small while because it tied in with the lyric of a song she was singing out loud. She licked my hand while we did that, with other people around. Stroked her hair, which calms her and puts her into a relaxed, calm state, at my house twice, the first time with her brother there, the second time just me and her. Came by my locker after the first time I stroked her hair, put my hand into her hair, moaned. People we don't know around, again . Stroked her hair at her house, with her head in my lap, with people around, with her Mom in the house. Had her lie down across the laps of a guy friend, a girl, and me, while I massaged her knees and legs.
Etc.
So here is the problem. Usually all this touching means that I'm in. But, this is not an ordinary girl, as I mentioned earlier. The small comments she drops about wishing I was her brother, or wishing she was my adopted daughter, or sister, how I have no ulterior motives...maybe this means I'm a neutered, genderless friend, almost a cousin. She's said, at one point, “I really don't care about people touching me. It's okay.” Maybe being Tai's sister does that. But I doubt any other guy other than her boyfriend goes as far as I do, and maybe not even then.
My gay friend, who claims to be able to read people well, thinks she does like me. At least a little.
I've really got no choice but to escalate. The problem is HOW? All I've got so far, is invite her back to my house for some hair stroking, then kiss her neck, or rub my hand against her hips, or something.
The boyfriend doesn't really matter to me. She doesn't seem to care too much about him. I mean, I ask about him that first time, and she says “He's ok.” I just want to be able to deal with it if she brings him up. Which, considering THIS-
(she licked me or something)
My guy friend: “But you have a boyfriend!”
Her: “Yeahh...don't tell him.”
-seems unlikely.
How should I escalate smoothly (specifics), with minimum awkwardness? How should I handle if she brings up the boyfriend? SHOULD I even escalate? How do I get to kissing? Is my current plan fine as is or should I do something else?