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Master Don Juan
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I wanted to create a thread for our community that enlists the countless reasons why seeing a woman (beyond traditional friends) who is married or has an official boyfriend is wrong. Please add reasons to this thread of why you believe seeing a woman who has an official BF or is married should not be done. On the other hand, if you have an argument in favor of sleeping with these women--although I disagree--you may also state your argument and have it heard. The purpose of this thread is to make it clear which of the two choices is the best.
Let me begin by arguing against the topic: messing with girls/women who are married or have boyfriends says things about the character of guy who is stealing the girl:
-He lacks integrity and empathy for other men. He, who sleeps with another man's woman, cannot see how this situation would damage the woman's boyfriend/husband. Most of the time, the boyfriend/husband is oblivious to the fact the woman is cheating or--in the event he is beta--how beta he is. You are defecating on your kind by stealing another man's girl and contributing female promiscuity and deception upon men. You do not know through how many things the other male went to get his girl attracted to him and how much you will devastate him. Let someone else be the bad guy, not you.
-He takes advantage of situations so that he invests as little as possible because he is lazy and afraid of rejection. Although there are many single, free women out there, he, who sleeps with a woman in a relationship, goes for the woman who shows interest in him, regardless of her committed status. He does this because he feels there is a much lower probability of being rejected and feeling pain in girls who already approve of him. In other words, he is a coward when it comes to rejection and an opportunist when it comes to being lazy. He could be approaching single women anywhere, but his anxieties and insecurities make them a slave to find the easy way out. This kind of man may also miss out on highly attractive and intelligent women who do not display IOI's until you approach them first/make the first move and show value.
In conclusion, do not sleep with women who are married or in relationships. Instead, get your life together, develop interests/hobbies and become a greater human being (but not for women; do it for yourself). Most of the time, women will notice and cling to the interests you have and translate them to qualities. This is also the same reason women leave men who become obsessed with them and give up on their hobbies. Women want a man who is is well-rounded and who will not be clingy, yet will have time to spend with them. It really is not that hard to be successful with women. Your mind is your own worst obstacle--believing you are not good enough, which causes insecurities, approach anxiety, and nervousness when you actually approach--between where you stand today and where you would like to stand tomorrow, which brings me to my next point.
Stop trying to find a perfect/magic formula that will bring you instant success with women because it does not exist. Do yourself a favor and focus your energy on your family, hobbies, and community. Once you have your life together, women will gravitate towards you and give you subtle signals--to which we refer as "IOI's" in here--without you even moving a finger. The secret to being successful with women is in conveying your amazing personality and all the things you have to offer without trying to impress anyone, but because they are the blocks that make you who you are. You getting an amazing wife/girlfriend/friend with benefits, or any other goal you have all starts with a glance. How many glances do you miss during the time you are reading threads on this site? Get out there and make it happen for yourself. You are a grown man and no one will do the work for you. Be a DJ with integrity.
Let me begin by arguing against the topic: messing with girls/women who are married or have boyfriends says things about the character of guy who is stealing the girl:
-He lacks integrity and empathy for other men. He, who sleeps with another man's woman, cannot see how this situation would damage the woman's boyfriend/husband. Most of the time, the boyfriend/husband is oblivious to the fact the woman is cheating or--in the event he is beta--how beta he is. You are defecating on your kind by stealing another man's girl and contributing female promiscuity and deception upon men. You do not know through how many things the other male went to get his girl attracted to him and how much you will devastate him. Let someone else be the bad guy, not you.
-He takes advantage of situations so that he invests as little as possible because he is lazy and afraid of rejection. Although there are many single, free women out there, he, who sleeps with a woman in a relationship, goes for the woman who shows interest in him, regardless of her committed status. He does this because he feels there is a much lower probability of being rejected and feeling pain in girls who already approve of him. In other words, he is a coward when it comes to rejection and an opportunist when it comes to being lazy. He could be approaching single women anywhere, but his anxieties and insecurities make them a slave to find the easy way out. This kind of man may also miss out on highly attractive and intelligent women who do not display IOI's until you approach them first/make the first move and show value.
In conclusion, do not sleep with women who are married or in relationships. Instead, get your life together, develop interests/hobbies and become a greater human being (but not for women; do it for yourself). Most of the time, women will notice and cling to the interests you have and translate them to qualities. This is also the same reason women leave men who become obsessed with them and give up on their hobbies. Women want a man who is is well-rounded and who will not be clingy, yet will have time to spend with them. It really is not that hard to be successful with women. Your mind is your own worst obstacle--believing you are not good enough, which causes insecurities, approach anxiety, and nervousness when you actually approach--between where you stand today and where you would like to stand tomorrow, which brings me to my next point.
Stop trying to find a perfect/magic formula that will bring you instant success with women because it does not exist. Do yourself a favor and focus your energy on your family, hobbies, and community. Once you have your life together, women will gravitate towards you and give you subtle signals--to which we refer as "IOI's" in here--without you even moving a finger. The secret to being successful with women is in conveying your amazing personality and all the things you have to offer without trying to impress anyone, but because they are the blocks that make you who you are. You getting an amazing wife/girlfriend/friend with benefits, or any other goal you have all starts with a glance. How many glances do you miss during the time you are reading threads on this site? Get out there and make it happen for yourself. You are a grown man and no one will do the work for you. Be a DJ with integrity.
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