"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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seeing the older woman

Heretolearn

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Recommended?

Why?

Say for someone in their mid 20s looking just for fun/experience. My friend really wants this sort of relationship. Me, I am not so sure. I have always been with younger women.

Whats the analysis - why? Why not?

Share some stories.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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yendor28 said:
Recommended?

Why?

Say for someone in their mid 20s looking just for fun/experience. My friend really wants this sort of relationship. Me, I am not so sure. I have always been with younger women.

Whats the analysis - why? Why not?

Share some stories.
Give the age difference. The type of relationship she is looking for, then we will be able to assist you. If it's just for fun, go ahead bang her whenever you get h0ney. Older ladies are great at giving gifts to their younger FBs. I call them sugermama. I used to bang 37 years old for sometimes ago. Got showered with lots of gifts as a result. No serious relationship.
 

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yendor28 said:
Recommended?

Why?

Say for someone in their mid 20s looking just for fun/experience. My friend really wants this sort of relationship. Me, I am not so sure. I have always been with younger women.

Whats the analysis - why? Why not?

Share some stories.
My experience is that the BEST sex a man can ever get is with ATHLETIC 20-something year old woman. Followed very closely by trailer trash women of the same age range. That's the best way to gain experience too.
 

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I have learned from experience (some good, some bad) that going for older women in the end was really just a waste of some good years of my life. For some time now my rule has been no single moms and no one older than me (no exceptions). Here's what I've observed, learned and theorized. Especially for women about 3+ years (and older).

1.) Can be quite difficult to maintain the Alpha control state so you're more likley to wind up the needy/beta/AFC boy in the end especially if it goes LTR.
2.) A better chance she'll dump you for an a older, more perceived Alpha dude in the end (especially after # 1 and her ego's been stroked).
3.) Far more likely to have baggage (ie she's been around longer and will have more dating,LTR history)
4.) They are more likley to have kids (which are probably f'ups).
5.) They are more likley to have f'd up ex's around.
6.) The seem to have relatively low self-esteem (LSE). For example,why is an older woman REALLY seeking a relationship with a younger man?
7.) You could be more likely to fall into a STR/LTR with an older woman even when your original intention was a simple FB/FWB situation.
8.) If it goes LTR and you turn 40 wouldn't you rather roll over to be ridden by your HB9 32yr who still can't seem to get enough of you, wants to have YOUR kids yet still isn't in a major rush, etc.

just my 2 cents worth
 

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Sure, there is a time and a place for dating 40 year old women. It is when you are 60! Remember, when you are 60, you aint' going to have any chance with the 20 somethings.. so bang them now! Leave the old hags for when you are a grandpa!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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piterx said:
i am 24 and she is 42 ^_^
Son...when I was 24...I would have PUKED if anything that much olded (no offense) would have even kissed me.

What a waste.
 

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Sinistar said:
I have learned from experience (some good, some bad) that going for older women in the end was really just a waste of some good years of my life. For some time now my rule has been no single moms and no one older than me (no exceptions). Here's what I've observed, learned and theorized. Especially for women about 3+ years (and older).

1.) Can be quite difficult to maintain the Alpha control state so you're more likley to wind up the needy/beta/AFC boy in the end especially if it goes LTR.
2.) A better chance she'll dump you for an a older, more perceived Alpha dude in the end (especially after # 1 and her ego's been stroked).
3.) Far more likely to have baggage (ie she's been around longer and will have more dating,LTR history)
4.) They are more likley to have kids (which are probably f'ups).
5.) They are more likley to have f'd up ex's around.
6.) The seem to have relatively low self-esteem (LSE). For example,why is an older woman REALLY seeking a relationship with a younger man?
7.) You could be more likely to fall into a STR/LTR with an older woman even when your original intention was a simple FB/FWB situation.
8.) If it goes LTR and you turn 40 wouldn't you rather roll over to be ridden by your HB9 32yr who still can't seem to get enough of you, wants to have YOUR kids yet still isn't in a major rush, etc.

just my 2 cents worth
Very good post.

By the way, I consider 3 years older the same as "same age".
 

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True they tend to stay good looking longer, have less baggage, etc. What is surprising to me though is that I was just browsing Match and it seems in my area the 40 year olds tend to be more attractive looking and in much better shape then the 20 somethings on there. Seriously. What's up with that?
I normally date younger women and have only been with one woman older than me, I was 26 and she was 32, and 40 is now only 5 years older than me. However, even if I was a bit younger and was on Match looking for an FB, I think I would rather bang an attractive, fit 40 year old than an overweight and ugly 25 year old.
 

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Marcopolo said:
True they tend to stay good looking longer, have less baggage, etc. What is surprising to me though is that I was just browsing Match and it seems in my area the 40 year olds tend to be more attractive looking and in much better shape then the 20 somethings on there. Seriously. What's up with that?
I normally date younger women and have only been with one woman older than me, I was 26 and she was 32, and 40 is now only 5 years older than me. However, even if I was a bit younger and was on Match looking for an FB, I think I would rather bang an attractive, fit 40 year old than an overweight and ugly 25 year old.
Make up. They wear make up.

That might be then answer.

Although, fitness is a different issue...that has no age.

But the important thing is dealing with the emotional/insecurity/baggage.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I wouldn't do it. In my 20's I dated some gals in their 30's, baggage city ... and I had no clue what I was doing. I thought I was cool or something. The 20-30 decade is the decade of opportunity, the chance to date women in their prime. The older you get, the less 20-somethings want to date you.

It may seem intriguing, looking back no way should I have done it.

In your 20's, don't date anyone over 30, IMO, unless she's smoking hot, mature, professional, no more than 5/6 years older and a keeper. If she's none of those things, date closer to your age.
 
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WestCoaster said:
The 20-30 decade is the decade of opportunity, the change to date women in their prime. The older you get, the less 20-somethings want to date you.
That is what I think. But, some of the posters here seem to think it is not an issue and it is easy to date a 20 something even if u r much older. I don't know. My experience has shown otherwise.
 

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I've posted this 100 times and no one listens to me: the 20's is the decade of fun, opportunity, travel AND the chance to date women in their physical prime. Also, not only their physical prime, their mental prime, to be honest.

About 90 percent of the women in the U.S.A. by age 30 are very bitter and are man-haters after being brainwashed on a daily basis by man-hating media, books, magazines, and their girl friends.

I'm speaking from experience, I blew my 20's, don't blow your 20's. While you can date 20 somethings when you're older, many, many, many women don't want to date older guys ... but they like to date age appropriate.

Why risk it and blow your 20's?

Any guy 20-30 who is dating mid-30's on up is stupid ... I know, I did it, dumbest move of my life.

Why is youth wasted on the young?
 
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