"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DJ Rule #1 - not to value looks



So I met this girl on Friday, as mentioned in my previous two threads. And by Tuesday we ended up committed because we were clicking, I went against the advice of a member on this forum and made her my girlfriend pre-maturely (and immaturely), in fact we haven't done anything sexual and so far she just likes to cuddle, kiss and reject my moves to escalate and act like she's not ready. She only is okay with being touched outside of her clothing, yet she asks me to hang out daily and although I took her out to eat twice already (not my style, wasn't trying to impress her - I was just hungry and I told her she owes me a home cooked breakfast) - the girl seems to never have money and has no problem with wanting to go out to eat, in fact I think she asked me to yesterday. She said she's worried about doing stuff so soon because she "really likes me" and doing stuff might "change things" :crackup:

I thought she was pretty mature initially but that's clearly just because she's use to being hit on (she's pretty hot)

I'm going to use this opportunity as a lesson learned and a chance to do some experimentation, see what works and what doesn't and come back to you guys with a report, hopefully things will either change or end soon. Just being with her in school has gotten me a lot of social proof and attention from other girls.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DonGorgon

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yeh you botched it.. oh and she already is having her F needs met which is why she wont let you get some.

- Never spend money early out
- Stay in F state
- if she rejects you pull back
- Seek other options she is not into you enough to waist time chasing.
 

Dante420

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DonGorgon said:
yeh you botched it.. oh and she already is having her F needs met which is why she wont let you get some.

- Never spend money early out
- Stay in F state
- if she rejects you pull back
- Seek other options she is not into you enough to waist time chasing.
The worse part about this is I know all of this, I just didn't care. I was out with her and I was hungry and I like to eat good, so I took her out. Then the next day I didn't like the mall food court options so I took her out to eat with me again.

I got to come up with a theory to work myself out of this. Seeking other options would be easy but this girl seems to display potential, she was actually the one that called me and made the plans to go see a movie (which I got a refund on and went out to eat instead) then she was the one who brought up the subject of making us official since everyone in school was asking about us. . . . .:woo:

Should I be looking into ending this soon, I don't want to cheat no matter how immature the relationship is - in my last ltr I cheated. If I do end it, what would be the coolest way to end it that could result in her chasing?
 

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Sometimes a bit of rejection is just a sign that you're moving too fast... I wasn't allowed to touch the tits of a chick I was making out with on my couch, and 20 minutes later I had my hand in her pants.

It's all a matter of how you escalate.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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So the title was "how violating the first rule can get you in a hole" but it looks like it's had exactly the opposite effect for you.

If anything it's delayed your "getting in a hole," so at this point if you do manage to tap that, then you have only shown that it's possible to recover from breaking the first rule!

Good luck though.
 

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Dante420 said:
Seeking other options would be easy but this girl seems to display potential
You want sex. She wants to turn you down for sex but still have you spend money on her. Am I missing something? Where's the potential?

Stick her with a bill for dinner and a blòwjòb and see how much potential she displays.
 

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So she was giving it up today and the house was too ourselves and I guess maybe it was the alcohol combined with all that I had on my mind but I just clearly wasn't in the mood. I just kissed her and went down on her and kept her happy. I know I handled it right but I just need to have no pressure on me for next time.
 

I'm in the Mood

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Man, she said she didn't want to have sex with you early because she wants a relationship with you. It's that simple.
This can be changed with a bit of sexual tension, some horniness and control over state-breaks.
 
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