Seduction date as based on HTSWW

[Luke Skywalker]

This is a follow-up thread for the Memorising lines for dates thread (which is actually the 'PRIMING DATE' concept from HTSWW). As I stated, the effect of the 'canned lines' appear to have seriously helped the date as it really got her to open up and have fun. I did get crossed examine on one of the lines, so I had to make up a poplular teen show to give the appearance that I didn't just make up that line. She said by email she had a good-time and wants to go out again sometime.

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The Seductation date: This is the next type of date that is going to be set-up.
Once a date is scheduled with her - the plan will be to go take her down to the lake, and base a seduction date premise on going on those surroudings both for picnic, and to walk around the island and engage in some of the attractions. The West side of the island is going to likely show a beautiful sunset, so I'd likely be around there during that time as it seems romantic. Lots of fun or romantic components within the island itself.

As a back-up plan, in the event it rains and it's a thunderstorm - I'll take her to a omni-max movie theatre at the science centre, and possibly to eat/dance somewhere else after that.

The books says one should have SEVERAL SCENERIO DATES planned out, so if the weather is bad, rather than cancelling a date and rescheduling it, you can still go out, and do something else.

The idea of the 'seduction date' is to create romantic mood and sexual tension. I'll go into more further detail later, but for now, this next date will likely be next weekend or something, giving me plenty of time to read the book, HTSWW very carefully, and implement most if not all the steps to making a successful SEDUCTION date.

I know people, exept for Espi, have complainted about HTSWW, but so far, that book seems to be jiving with me, at least on the department of dates, and I frankly feel comfortable with it, so I think I'll tackle this book. There has been no C&B dates when applying it's concepts to date.

 

[Desdinova]

I know people, exept for Espi, have complainted about HTSWW, but so far, that book seems to be jiving with me, at least on the department of dates

It REALLY sounds like you're trying to work within your comfort zone, and you're unwilling to go further.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

8 Components of a Triumphant Seduction Date:

1. Seduction date takes place over many hours.

- On priming date, focus is on NOT spending too much time with the woman as you may blow it on saying something stupid - purpose is to leave her wanting more.

- Seduction date - spend at least four hours - romance and sexiness take 'hours' to build - point is to prove you are 'patient' in a 'cat-mouse' game that requires hours to play.

- Dates have to be long as it provides justifications for them for action without feeling cheap.

2. Seduction dates make a woman feel special.

- Priming dates address concern of whether or not you are safe to date.
Seduction dates focus on whether you are a potential boyfriend or not.

- For most women, the man of their dreams appreciates how they dress, the topics they discuss, their interests, and much more - so you must feign an interest in those subjects. Their ideal boyfriend would probably give long back rubs, hold them close, pay for dates, and enjoy kissing softly in moonlight, etc.... find out what she enjoys and engineer a date that gives those romantic desires.

- Stay focused on her and her desires throughout the date, making her feel special, and find a way to have a good-time too.

- Respect her wishes and boundaries during the date - respect her likes and dislikes.

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ROMANTIC GIFTS:

- Must be wrapped nicely.
- good-taste (not a pack of condoms)
- inexpensive.
- funny, fun or romantic to her.
- given at random times - when she leasts expects it.

cheap gift examples:

- stuffed animals
- chocolate
- cute cards
- funny pens
- A memento you buy while on the date
- Flowers
- A cheap license plate with her name on it
- CD of good romantic music (or burn one)
- A funny toy.
- Bath soap.
- Food
- Massage oil
- A goofy hat
- A shell from the ocean
- A book


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SEDUCTION DATE - PLACE THAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY --- different world, different environment than the 'usual'.

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ELEMENT OF SURPRISE

Experiment with suprise on seduction dates. - element of surprise creates a quickened bonding process and invokes fun, ecstasy and romance.

Think of good surprise for seduction dates.

Creating a surprise - brings out playful parts on you - is a good idea when getting to know a woman.

- when a date is full of surprise, you are unpredictable, exciting and it's difficult not to have fun.

EXPERIMENT - WITH SURPRIZE ON SEDUCTION DATES - learn to surprise.

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THE MAN HAS TO PAY FOR A 'SEDUCTION DATE -- better to go on a cheap date and you pay for it, then an expensive one and she pays or you go dutch. Spend within your budget.

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DO NOT SOCIALISE - fun is part of the date - but you are "at work".
Goal is to create sexual tension, creating romantic feelings - be clear about those goals WHENEVER interacting with your date.

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FLEXIBABLE SCHEDULE

Priming dates are like 30-75 minutes - discovering woman's likes, dislikes is focus.

Seduction dates - pace is SLOWER AND LESS INTENSE.

- LET GO OF HAVING YOUR PLANS WORK PERFECTLY, while pursuing your goal at the same time. Let the ambiguity and uncertainty be there, while still following other principles - or you'll be a control freak. After a FEW seduction dates, this formula will make more sence.

- Do not rush or hurry a sexual mood - be tactful, let the date unfold and go at her pace, still follow your plan.

Allow for both a tightly structured outing and one that is flexible.

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PLAN FOR SUCCESS

Prepare - just in case something happens - to bring condoms around, because you never know. If you feel too negative, and as a result do not brign condoms - and she is ready to have sex and you dont have it, you just nailed yourself.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

It REALLY sounds like you're trying to work within your comfort zone, and you're unwilling to go further.

Hey, I've never been on a seduction date before, who said I'm comfortable?
I've only been on ONE structured PRIMING date - AND IT WORKED !!!

 

[GatorBait]

Hey, I've never been on a seduction date before, who said I'm comfortable?
I've only been on ONE structured PRIMING date - AND IT WORKED !!!

Define "worked".

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Define "worked".

worked means no c&b occurred - or that it served it's purpose, which is to get her to go out a SECOND time on a seduction date. She laughed, she had fun, she was into the romantic convo and was enjoying it, prompty replied to my courtesy email a day later and she brought up the idea of doing it again sometime == worked.

Based on how my other date went without the benefit of reading the HTSWW book - which was an absolute disaster. She went NC, and told me not to call or email her again as it was a date from hell. I did not read the HTSWW book properly before that date and it was a convoluted 4 hour date, where wierd things popped out of my mouth, that made a worst impression of myself then I would normally be capable of doing, it's like I shoot myself on the foot with a machine gun, not even a pistol.

NOW - the real game is on this date - if it works properly, I should be having my first kiss and much more.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

You've definitely well-outlined the seduction date, Luke. Don't try to remember everything. Too much to remember, IMO.

A few things:

* I don't agree with feigning interest in the girl's topics. In fact, I find women are INSANELY attracted to me when I exhibit a classic Jeckyl and Hyde-type personality. For example: You pick her up for the date and comment about her outfit, "What kind of giddup is that?" Then you say something like, "DO NOT look into the picnic basket, OK? There's a nice surprise in there for you." Act like a macho-gruff, incorrigible a$$ with a secret soft romantic center, which only she can get to.

The problem is I think as I've seen her already two times, and have e-corresponded with her for a while, that it may be difficult to use a different type of persona. It may seem to be more difficult to develop that type of persona unless I'm actually frustrated with her. Usually when I'm frustrated I start lashing out which is not good.

I'll tell you, I'm a shy, quiet, withdrawn type of guy, the type that people may think is up to something or could out of nowhere do something dangerous, I'm more of a listener than a talker, and I'd need to fit that macho-gruff within the context.

I do have an Uncle, who has a persona of a macho-gruff, and the only way I can adopt it is if I hang around him, but he's rather mean spirited in a way and lives rather far from here.

*Don't bother with small gifts. I've never bothered, and it seems I don't need them. Overkill, IMO.

Ok, let's just stick with chocolate, or any thing that will get her 'stimulated'.
Like organic pure chocolate - guaranteed to turn anyone on sexually.

* Easy seduction date: Pack a styrofoam cooler with items like turkey sandwiches, fruit, chips, and wine (costs about $20.00). Buy CHEAP PLASTIC wine "glasses," but be sure to buy wine glass "jewelry," which usually comes in the form of patel-colored stars and slips around the base of the glass. The jewelry is VERY CHEAP and makes a lasting impression because the girl sees you put thought into the date. (Just go into a wine store and ask the cashier if you're not sure what I'm talking about). Pick a quiet, woodside area (not too isolated or she likely won't go there) and spread a blanket. Be sure to have another blanket for later...WOMEN LOVE BLANKETS...I swear, they're like a freaking aphrodesiac!! From there, you've got it made. The beach works very well for this, too.

This is a great tip! I think I can try that.

On your internet dating experiences - you've tried out all sorts of seduction dates by following the concepts of the HTSWW book? So, you find the book has a tendency to go a bit off tangent - or may reinforce a beta-guy type of character or AFC indirectly by some of it's influences.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

A Seduction date formats on brainstorm list for winter:

- Ice skating at Nathan Philips square.
- Science Centre/ Omnimax theatre.
- CN tower.
- Casa Loma
- Royal Ontario Museum.
- Black Creek Pioneer Village
- Art Gallery/ Kleinburg Art Gallery.
- Driving around looking at lights.
- Skiing.

The second goal, other than procuring a kiss on a first or subsequent meeting, and having a smooth first meeting, is to have a good seduction date. To have a good seduction date, need to have a repetoir of ideas to take a date to for practise.

However, there is this one idea that I think is too extreme, and think that I cant pursue it as it requires money to book a hotel.

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Propsects I have meet from online:
18 y/o black single mother.
34 y/o divorcee.

Idea linked to 18 y/o black single mother.

18 y/o single mother - propose to take her to Niagara Falls to view Festival of Lights. While it seems extreme, I would also have to book a hotel to f-close her to make it worth my while, otherwise it would be a 'gay exercise' to take a willing girl on a 3 hour trip (6 hours total) on an expensive escapade, and DONT END UP having sex with her.

Thus I think I'll have to pass pursuing this idea. I dont have that much money to spend. We both live with our parents, and thus it's impossible to isolate for any potential f-close. Question is, would people put this much time, energy and money out on someone for no potential for a long term relationship and that's not quality material?

I doubt it. But it sounds like a nice type of trip that would lend itself to a f-close fling outcome.

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