Second time going clubbing FR

[Athos]

Okay fresh on the 18 boat so just started club game.

First set sitting and drinking at the bar

Me: Hey how's your night going? (I talked to both of em really)
Them: Good blah blah, we're not from around here
Me: Where you from etc. casual fluff talk
more afc ****
Me: Who do you think lies more, men or women? (Lol at me using this at this point in the convo - i thought it was better to try some material then nothing)

Them: Idk its hard to say blahblah
Me: Random fluff talk.

I wasn't paying attention to IOI's. One of the chicks went to dance, the other stayed there and I kept talking to her. They said something about bouncing. We talked a bit about how the club didnt have many people etc. How they'd (stupidly) spent $120 bucks getting here by taxi. Should have negged here but I made the mistake of being "nice guy".

I didn't really have a plan for the whole thing. They wanted to bounce to another club and I was like well we're heading to xyz club wanna come? And they were like yeah we dont know where anything is. Then I went to talk to the group I was with who were dancing and I took to long and they went out. We saw them outside. They started talking to the chicks I was with.

I tried to neg them their and she was like "I wasn't talking to you" LOL so sorta backfired on me. Anyway so we kept going and they went the other way ah well.

The hard part I guess is figuring out what rookie mistakes I made.

Another group set maybe 6. ****ed up cause I just talked to one. And my wings pussied out. I said introduce me to the rest but they weren't paying attention w/e next time I'll remember to talk to them and start a conversation with all of them.

Anyway, idk this chick seemed okay, wasn't that hot though but man she thought she was a 9 or something.

Me: how's your night going?
Her: yeah not bad we just finished exams blahblah
Her: hows your night going
Me: oh cool some ****
Me: Whats your name shake hand yadayada
Her: Something i cant remember REALLY hard to pronounce i think she was indian or something
Me: blahblah noticing declining interest levels - okay we're gonna play a game
you're gonna pick three people that you don't know and tell me which one
loooks like a stripper, a lawyer and a doctor and why.
LOL i couldnt remember how the real one went but yeah, thought i was gonna lose the set and didnt care too much at this point. And she was like thats a lame game blahblah (im so hot and i can act *****y lol) and pretty much bounced.

Hmm should probably try and give more details about the conversation but any obvious stuff I did wrong/recommendations?

What do I need to change? I can't figure out why I'm messing up these sets.

Gonna go sarging again tomorrow night, fortunately I should have a decent wingman - met him today. w00t? Pretty awesome their are actually any PUA's in Auckland.

OHH I also approached a bartender and said "Can I have your number?" "No. *Headshake*" "Why do you have a boyfriend?" "Yes" "Okay well I thought it was worth a shot".

Well I knew it wasn't going to go anywhere I really just wanted to say I had the balls to do it lol. Messed up heaps though, I think she saw me waiting around for it, following her etc and obviously there's no game if I just go and ask her but yeah. The outright "no" stung a bit haha but I figure I better get use to it and harden up.

Okay I'm out there were a couple more sets but all like this and didn't go anywhere.

Cheers for any input guys.

 

[Athos]

Oh I forgot to mention in the first set the girl mentioned how her work pays for her drinks and ****. So I was like "buy me a drink" and she and her friend were like "you should buy me a drink, it's the other way around" I was like "not in auckland it doesn't" but then i dropped my balls and started talking more and saying other ***** **** instead. And y'know "well you should buy me a drink since it's free etc. etc." Man I got a lot to learn aye.

Looking forward to having a good wingman. In regards to that anyone here hail from Auckland? Or New Zealand even?

drop me a pm if ya are.

 

[loveshogun]

You are 18. You will make mistakes. This is fine.

My advice to you is, at your age, don't get caught up thinking so much about "things you did wrong" or "what you could have said better." Instead, just observe people's reactions to you based on how you act. Be aware of how people react to you first, not why.

Remember, reality is not subordinate to your ability to understand it. I call this Rule Zero:

Rule Zero: Know exactly where you stand at all times in any situation, regardless of your ability to change it.

So the first thing you have to do is make sure you're able to objectively recognize the reality of any situation at any given time, so you don't end up like this:

"Things were going so well. Why did she leave?"

Reality first. Opinions later.

You at least have some sense of human radar. You may be easier to work with than most. Don't let it get to your head.

Also, if you already have the confidence to walk up and talk to any chicks, you don't need lines, negs, or openers anymore - those are like training wheels. When you feel you can put sentences together in front of a pair of HB10s without stuttering, you can let them go.

Work on getting interesting life experiences to talk about.

 

[Athos]

Hmm.

Hmm "how" people react not "why"? Can you expand a bit? I'm not sure I understand completely, and if I do, how exactly does this help.

Rule Zero, sounds right, but how does it fit in to "game" exactly? How does it help or why?

Sorry, I like to understand the meaning behind it so I can ground it into my way of thinking. An example would be awesome.

Cheers.

Another question, and how do you make rejection or what ever you want to call it feel less bad lol. Is it just time that desensitizes you?

Cause I feel this urge to feel like **** and give up and I'm like "no, **** this" but it's still their on the edges saying "since xyz chick rejected you that means you're not good enough" and my self confidence starts going down, but yeah, not going to let it win aye, just keep pushing back and remembering how awesome I am.

 

[Athos]

Yeah.

 

[Athos]

Cheers man.

Appreciate it.

Went out again tonight. Same sort of stuff, me and my wing were just getting comfortable making approaches. Club scene is hard I must admit, loud music, hard to talk, and even harder to isolate.

I think I will read some on body language.