Scientology

[whistler]

How could I have missed this thread?

If you want to kill an afternoon, Google "OT-III"!

Tom Cruise believes (because he has too) that an alien named Xenu tricked trillions of aliens into going to their tax collection centers, at which point they were injected, frozen, shipped to Earth, dropped into volcanoes and blown up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls were then collected and subjected to 36 days of movies about religious icons, helicopters, and mid-20th century England. Their initial memories were basically over-written.

These "thetans" hung around until humans came about. Then they sort of got stuck to us (on us, in us, around us). Each person probably has hundreds if not thousands of pesty thetans attached to them.

Higher-level Scientologists (like Cruise or Travolta) basically help their attached thetans to go away by helping them remember about the whole abduction/brainwashing thing. They use what is basically a Jetsons-looking lie-detector to monitor their "auditing" sessions.

Weird beliefs aside, there are so many factual errors and logical inconsistencies in Hubbard's writing that the whole thing comes across, well, (ehem) wacky.

 

[Deep Dish]

Jvesti:
They dont get specific as to suck you in. You are fed deception in small bites as to brainwash.

I once had a run-in with a cult. I was new in college and hence in a vulnerable point in my life; I wanted to meet new people. Things at first seemed alright but I was annoyed by two little details; when I couldn’t attend some sort of social function, I was viewed as a problem. “Why can’t you go? Why are those other things more important?” Furthermore, get-togethers of the ordinary hanging out at someone’s house, which I had assumed were focused on people hanging out, I would come to find were specifically focused solely on me. In the beginning, their “sell” was light but steadily overtime they pushed harder ideas. And by pushed, I mean pushed. If I did not accept what they were saying, their attitude was essentially “WTF is wrong with you, eh?” When I was slow to make progress, they would say, “You don’t seem like you’re putting in a full effort.” After about two months, I quit, when I did an innocent Google search and found out all cult warnings about the organization. I notified a local FOX news station, was interviewed, appeared on the news, and then about two months later saw an investigation by the national FOX News Channel on that organization and its preying on college kids. Afterwards, I questioned if “god” even existed and a few months later threw religion away and began the long personal journey towards atheism.

I feel lucky my experiences with the organization were brief. People who leave the organization after years of being in it, tend to commit suicide.

diceman:
That it’s a cult that brainwashes people in small bites, isn't that what this site does?

According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, the word is defined as “Intensive, forcible indoctrination, usually political or religious, aimed at destroying a person’s basic convictions and attitudes and replacing them with an alternative set of fixed beliefs.”

This website is not brainwashing. Socialization is not brainwashing and nor is watching the news, although both are processes by which one’s beliefs can be molded or shifted over time.

tristan22:
I’m not into this cult, but it seems like everyone who joins the church of scienctology have golden lives.

I recently read an extensive criticism of (s)cientology’s “Executing the Suppressive Person Doctrine”. In their set of beliefs, it’s illegal for someone to leave the cult, illegal to tell others about leaving the cult, illegal to think about leaving the cult. In their set of beliefs, if you disagree with (s)cientology you are anti-social and therefore subject to punishment and humiliation; according to them, all anti-socials are criminals with criminal histories who need to be embarassed, harrassed, or in some cases murdered. (Some critics of (s)cientology have been murdered). Direct and exact quote of Tom Cruise, in a recent interview: “If you disagree [with (s)cientology], Fvck you! FVCK YOU!” In their set of beliefs, humans originated from alien pods thousands of years ago. But, of course, you have to pay your way to their highest levels to learn that (until, that is, someone leaked out their top secrets).

whistler:
Weird beliefs aside, there are so many factual errors and logical inconsistencies in Hubbard's writing that the whole thing comes across, well, (ehem) wacky.

It’s no coincidence Hubbard suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.

 

[whistler]

Here's an excerpt from his top secret scrawled notes that scientologists aren't allowed to talk about:

(1) capture (being shot),
(2) freezing,
(3) transport to Teegeeack (sometimes via a relay point),
(4) being placed near a volcano,
(5) beginning implant up to "the pilot",
(6) various picture sequences,
(7) the 7s and C.C. and OT II materials,
(8) 36 days of picture implants which give a vast array of materials and three explanations for the bombing,
(9) transport to Hawaii or Las Palmas for packaging up into clusters.

The pictures contain God, the Devil, angels, space opera, theaters, helicopters, a constant spinning, a spinning dancer, trains and various scenes very like modern England. You name it, it's in this implant we call in its entirely "R6".

This stuff is easily accessible on the net.

If that isn't the writing of someone with paranoid schizophrenia, what is?

 

[snintel]

Originally posted by Skel
I never even heard of this until a few nights ago. Saw something on Tom cruise and Katie holmes Anyways was curious what the big deal was so i googled it. I cant find an answer to what the religion is really about. It seems even scientologists dont know what scientology is. Even their description is all mumo jumbo. Can anyone give me a brief explanation of this? I know its a religion or cult or something o the sort but thats about all i know.

A brain washing based cult created by a hack out to con affluent people out of their money.

It's 100% sci-fi fantasy bull****, and I suggest you not waste time caring about what Tom Cruise is doing.

 

[Page]

I've heard that Scientology is a front for organized crime. Whether that is true or not, it is without a doubt a total scam.

 

[doctoroxygen]

As far as I understand it, Scientology is a replacement for psychiatry. L Ron Hubbard hated psychiatry, and Scientology holds that the science of psychiatry is about a billion years old and is responsible for WWI, WWII, the Holocaust, world poverty, and almost everything else that's bad. That's why Tom Cruise says psychiatry is a pseudo-science. As opposed to Scientology...

Also, it costs about $360,000 to reach OT-III. Haha!

 

[oakraiderz2]

Everyone that believes in that crap is a dipsh!t and should go to hell.

 

[whistler]

I've taken a one-on-one tour of one of their churches. I didn't ask about the aliens, etc. They're not allowed to talk about it or acknowledge it, so it's pointless. But I did get one of Hubbard's advanced books.

Talk about creating your own reality. lol

Be sure to keep yourself in check.

So if anybody has any questions, I have a pretty good source handy.

 

[Kaparski]

I cant believe this cult is still aorund after numeorus debunking and its historical backround.

Ignore idoits like current day Tom Cruise. Hes very confused and probably suffering from a mid-life crisis. Hopefully hell snap outta it.

 

[Alpine]

There's another cult. This bloke of course he recons he's the son of God. And he goes around doing David Blaine type magic. Since his death, the cult has grown around the world with various splinter groups.

They take money from poor people around the world to line their own pocket and build big monuments to themselves. They even let people get Aids and have babies that will die of hunger through their teachings, all in the name of this fictional character.