Scarcity Mentality and Meeting Women

[BeDJ]

I know, sorry, had to go there..

Look at it this way:

What happens to a chick after YOU bang her? Do you take her out on dates?

Sometimes a chick wants to keep you around for a while. They don't want to be pumped and dumped. That's it. Maybe they didn't want these other guys for anything else.

ONS aside, most women want to keep you around because of the fear of being pumped and dumped. After the first fvck, their hamster spins into overdrive. Some accept the fact that - Yeah, I was pumped and dumped. Others will rationalize another scenario. It's the SAME EXACT HAMSTER that men have regarding a woman's sexual interest. Some are experienced enough to see the light at the end of the tunnel and others are still lost in a circle. The only difference is that women can forget about it and move on much quicker than men because they have more options - abundance mentality. They end the rationalization phase in a few days, whereas a man's hamster can spin for a few weeks.

What happens after sex is depreciated pvssy value.

V = a / i

Whereas:

V: Pursuit of continued sex
a: Female Attractiveness (physical)
i: Interest level of female

Alternately,

V = a / i + 1/p

p: Plates currently in rotation

The optimized value of her depreciating pvssy occurs when the female maximizes her physical attractiveness and minimizes her interest level.
Thus; a woman's attractiveness must be greater than her clingy-ness after sex for her to be worth another fvck.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

ONS aside, most women want to keep you around because of the fear of being pumped and dumped. After the first fvck, their hamster spins into overdrive. Some accept the fact that - Yeah, I was pumped and dumped. Others will rationalize another scenario. It's the SAME EXACT HAMSTER that men have regarding a woman's sexual interest. Some are experienced enough to see the light at the end of the tunnel and others are still lost in a circle. The only difference is that women can forget about it and move on much quicker than men because they have more options - abundance mentality. They end the rationalization phase in a few days, whereas a man's hamster can spin for a few weeks.

What happens after sex is depreciated pvssy value.

V = a / i

Whereas:

V: Pursuit of continued sex
a: Female Attractiveness (physical)
i: Interest level of female

Alternately,

V = a / i + 1/p

p: Plates currently in rotation

The optimized value of her depreciating pvssy occurs when the female maximizes her physical attractiveness and minimizes her interest level.
Thus; a woman's attractiveness must be greater than her clingy-ness after sex for her to be worth another fvck.

Okay, so you've got enough plates in rotation as to where you're going out with lower quality girls than your current plates, in the hopes of a ONS. And that's all the investment you're willing to put into these girls.

Is that the case?

If that's it, then maybe you should try dating some higher quality women as to where it won't bother you if they make you wait a few dates.

 

[BeDJ]

Okay, so you've got enough plates in rotation as to where you're going out with lower quality girls than your current plates, in the hopes of a ONS. And that's all the investment you're willing to put into these girls.

Is that the case?

If that's it, then maybe you should try dating some higher quality women as to where it won't bother you if they make you wait a few dates.

I don't spin plates.
(Gasp!)

I know it's advised endlessly on this forum as well as countless others, but don't get me wrong, it's a good strategy. In my opinion, spinning plates is like training wheels to help you develop inner game (indifference, abundance mentality, depesdaslization, desperation, neediness, etc.) In a nutshell, it helps you to treat and view all women the same.

I have spun plates in the past, but it wasn't quite right for me. The investment(sacrifice) to keep that plate spinning wasn't worth the steady sex. Almost like an open relationship. Then, sooner or later, the plate wants exclusivity and drops. You are back at square one, return on investment - zero.

As far as quality goes, they would have been the same if I were pursuing monogamy, plate spinning, ONS, SNL, FWB, etc. Nothing changes except for the end result. With that said, The process feels a lot more thrilling for both parties. The high risk, high reward of going for the first date lay for me is similar to the high school kid falling in love for the first time with butterflies in his stomach. My 'plates' usually figure out what I'm doing after 2 weeks and I get bored during that time, so it's a mutual disconnect.

I understand that my goals aren't the same as others. Heck, 10 years from now, I may look back and say "The !@#%?" I say the same thing when I look back at myself 2 years ago.

I'm a strong advocate for indifference, I preach it every opportunity I get =D
Being emotionally detached any situation allows you to logically pick the best/winning decision - whether it's life, love or dinner.

 

[zekko]

Please expound on this, I am sure many members are keen to hear.

There really isn't that much to tell. I just remember very vividly when I was younger that there were some very hot girls around 23, say, who had crushes on guys that were easily twice their age. I'm not saying they acted on it (the guys were usually married). But I've always remembered it.

Usually the guys would be older, cool, mellow, laid back types. Not devastatingy handsome or anything, that I recall. But they did give off an air of solidly having their sh!t together. That's the one thing that older guys have to offer that younger guys can't generally match, because they're still building themselves. I always told myself that I would remember these girls when I got older, and that I would try to be that older cool guy.

Also, for whatever reason I've tended to form friendships with younger people, pretty much ever since I've been in my 30s. Not sure why, maybe I have a youthful spirit, I don't know. I've just never considered age as being that important, and the people I befriend don't seem to think so either.

Zekko i have been thinking a lot about why 1 rejection can get a guy down despite his many successes. Its some deep seated insecurity that even confident guys cant shake.

When I was in my 20s, I had some problems with negative thinking. That was a bad habit I had gotten into, and I had to make a firm effort to deal with it. I just realized at some point that whatever else was going on, the negative thoughts were not helping, at all, and they had to be done away with. So I became more optimistic. You get better results that way.

 

[Pandora]

If that's it, then maybe you should try dating some higher quality women as to where it won't bother you if they make you wait a few dates.

There is a big difference between her making you wait a few dates while giving you some type of physical action (make out) and her making you wait with no sign of actually getting physical. Making you wait for a few dates and not getting to even 2nd base within those few dates is a bad sign. It means she might be stringing you along for ulterior motives (ego boost). But if she is putting out a little bit then thats good. I think most guys would be ok with that.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

There is a big difference between her making you wait a few dates while giving you some type of physical action (make out) and her making you wait with no sign of actually getting physical. Making you wait for a few dates and not getting to even 2nd base within those few dates is a bad sign. It means she might be stringing you along for ulterior motives (ego boost). But if she is putting out a little bit then thats good. I think most guys would be ok with that.

Definitely. Agree 100%. Sometimes they wait, just because they have principles...which, IMO, is a good thing. If they're waiting because they're trying to use sex as a carrott then that's a bad thing. It you're doing things right, it doesn't happen that often. Either way, usually you can tell the difference.

In my opinion, spinning plates is like training wheels to help you develop inner game (indifference, abundance mentality, depesdaslization, desperation, neediness, etc.) In a nutshell, it helps you to treat and view all women the same.

Spinning plates is a way to have sex without having to go through all the bull$hit of getting laid. Like I said before, it's like having a pseudo girlfriend, you hang out, get some drinks, watch a movie, get laid...then it's done. No ticky tack BS inbetween. You have fun together for a night, then it's over...till the next time.

I have spun plates in the past, but it wasn't quite right for me. The investment(sacrifice) to keep that plate spinning wasn't worth the steady sex. Almost like an open relationship. Then, sooner or later, the plate wants exclusivity and drops. You are back at square one, return on investment - zero.

Yes, they do fall off, just like you described. It's like a pipeline, it's good to have "prospects" ready to step in. Return on investment? WTF you talking about?? Once you get a secure plate the investment is almost nill! She's the one doing the investing. Back rubs, dinner at her place. You don't have to put any "effort" into it, that's the whole point!

As far as quality goes, they would have been the same if I were pursuing monogamy, plate spinning, ONS, SNL, FWB, etc. Nothing changes except for the end result.

I highly doubt this. I've had ONS's with girls that drove me home and I've had them drop me off a few houses down...just in case. The plates are the ones that have something extra. They're the ones that you can hang with and enjoy yourself. Tell stories, laugh....have a good time with....then have sex. I didn't always feel this way but now it's fun. I like hanging out with them. They're chicks, they do chick $hit....it's humorous sometimes. It's all about how you look at it.

I'm a strong advocate for indifference, I preach it every opportunity I get =D
Being emotionally detached any situation allows you to logically pick the best/winning decision - whether it's life, love or dinner.

Indifference is good...to a point. IMO, you still should be able to make a connection with some of these women.

What happens when you want to go see a movie that just came out? Who do you go with? Or there's a festival in your city and you want to go check it out? You don't think it would be nice to have a chick to call up to come hang out with you and view the sites?

Why not have sex with a girl you've become comfortable with? It's sex.

Why does it always have to be a new girl?