"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Saw what used to be a HB8 today...what happened??

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I don't deny that attraction has a lot to do with it. It has almost everything to do with it when it comes to men. But, and I mean a big but, men fail with women because they attach way to much (thoughts and feelings) to a woman's attractiveness. They would have way more success if they could tell themselves that it's not that important (even though it is).

If you can look at a 10 and think of her as that 5 you wouldn't give the time of day, then you'd have a much easier time talking to her and being the man you truly are.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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This is true. We do put too much importance on attractiveness, but to deny her attractiveness is to lie to yourself. Personally, attractiveness is the first thing I look at. The next step is to talk to her to see if X and Y fit together to equal Z. That's the way it should be, but I agree with you. Most guys don't try to find the other part of the equation. I'm going to apologize right now, cause i thought you were saying physical attractiveness wasnt important at all... And it is.
 

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Yea, it's important to me. It's just the way we were made, but treating them as if they aren't, makes it so much easier and causes them to be intrigued because you're not like the other guys. Works like a charm.

Attraction for women is a smaller part of the equation.
 

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tick37 said:
That's theory, and it pertains to evolution. Evolution is a theory and not proven. So, I'll just stick to my own beliefs. Thanks for trying though.
evolution is a fact. macro evolution is a theory. one of the most well supported ones at that.
 

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Master Bates said:
evolution is a fact. macro evolution is a theory. one of the most well supported ones at that.
Please point me to some material that proves that is a fact. I'd like to see it. I'm not telling you that you're wrong. I'd just like to see it for myself.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Maybe she got depressed over a death in the family or something and began overeating to emotionally cope with the ordeal.

That or she became a pothead, got the food cravings as a result moreso than most potheads and voila chubby chicky lol.
 

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Maybe she discovered Jaeger and her metabolism hit rock-fvcking bottom. Yes getting fat can be prevented and it can also be overcome(living proof right here). Keep tossing her bananas and rice cakes, maybe she'll get the point of cleaning up her diet, but I wouldn't rely on a chick 2 do that, like my ex.
 
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Well, another theory is she went on some anti-depressant medications. I know she was going through a rough patch in her life.. those things are known to put on 20 lbs or so.
 

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tick37 said:
That's theory, and it pertains to evolution. Evolution is a theory and not proven. So, I'll just stick to my own beliefs. Thanks for trying though.
No. The theory of evolution is much more than "just a theory" in the common use of the term.

The word "theory" in normal usage means a guess or a hunch. But in science, a "theory" is a belief that has been generally accepted by scientists as a result of actual experimentation and/or observation.

Most biologists believe that evolution is more than a theory; it is an established fact. The earth's life forms have evolved over billions of years. Species of animals have been recently observed as continuing to evolve, both in the lab and field.

There remains debate about some details of past evolution. For example, there is a consensus that dinosaurs evolved and that birds evolved; there is some debate as to whether dinosaurs were the distant ancestors of birds.
 
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Maybe humans are evolving into Whales. That would explain the fat phenominon.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Personally, I wouldn't want a g/f that's overweight not just because of her appearance. I find that there's a reason they're overweight in the first place... If I can make time to go to the gym 3 times a week while being a full time college student, and working full time, then so can she.
 

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Very similar situation. A girl I knew freshman year was slim, tan, easily an HB9. I went to some campus even she was involved in the beggining of senior year and she didn't even look related to herself from 3 years ago.

What happened? She got comfortable. She got into a long-term relationship and, far from not taking care of herself, let herself go so completely that she about doubled in size. Sad.
 

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dopexile said:
No. The theory of evolution is much more than "just a theory" in the common use of the term.

Most biologists believe that evolution is more than a theory; it is an established fact. The earth's life forms have evolved over billions of years.

It's a fact because why? Because you or others say it's so. Do you believe everything you hear? Prove it to me, otherwise, I will not be so easily moved to believe.

Theory - hypothesis: a tentative theory about the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena; "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"
 

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Anyway, we've gotten off the subject. OP, I apologize for your thread taking a wrong turn.

You might be right about anti-depressants causing her to gain weight because some do cause an increase in appetite.
 

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Here's my theory .... Who really cares why ONE women in this world got fat, or 10 or a hundred. I'm not going to waste my VALUABLE time, wondering why a certain women from my past got fat. It could be a million different things. At the end of the day, she's a part of my past and not my future, so I'm not going to try and guess why. I'm going to focus on my life and my goals instead of wondering about something that has ABSOLUTELY no bearing on my life.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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There are a lot of women I see daily that have great potentials of becoming 8s or 9s only if they lose 30-40 pounds. I'm tempted to start a Fitness Bootcamp to train the fatties to become Victoria Secret's models and enjoy the fruits of my labour. :p Kinda like a HB Farm Project. Reckon I could get some government grant to get it going?
 
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tick37 said:
Anyway, we've gotten off the subject. OP, I apologize for your thread taking a wrong turn.

You might be right about anti-depressants causing her to gain weight because some do cause an increase in appetite.

I don't care, talk about whatever the hell you want.

As for the whales this thread was about, these overweight women still have AFC's throwing themselves at their feet. So they will never change.
 

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Most women struggle with weight. Most of my girl friends have fluctuated over the years, from biggies to more fit, back to being big, back to being more fit.

It is a huge, huge thing for most women.

It has made me appreciate being a tiny skinny chick, whereas I used to be very insecure about it. I definately don't want to go through what I see them go through. Every day eating choices are like going to war for them. Me? I order whatever I want, however I want, whenever I want. I am BLESSED.
 
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iqqi said:
It has made me appreciate being a tiny skinny chick, whereas I used to be very insecure about it. I definately don't want to go through what I see them go through. Every day eating choices are like going to war for them. Me? I order whatever I want, however I want, whenever I want. I am BLESSED.
Pics or we don't believe you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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