...Exp, did you create that just for this thread? 'Cause if you did, you probably should've used that time for something else... like sarging... lol.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
...Exp, did you create that just for this thread? 'Cause if you did, you probably should've used that time for something else... like sarging... lol.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
This couldnt be any further from the point.KoalaKing said:You obviously veiw the hot babes as being the ultimate prize and not yourself, I feel sorry for you, there are so many opportunities to meet hot babes in everyday life situations, if you are desperate in your search for a hot babe you will never meet one, never think about them until you see one that you like then approach her and speak to her, you should be the prize and not her, live your life for yourself, not for a hot babe, they are everywhere that you go, you don't have to specifically spend all of your time searching for them, they appear in your everyday life, if you build a power within they will come to you, walk like a King, talk like a King, see yourself as the Prize and do what you want to do, don't let them control how you live, I used to and it caused me nothing but heartache misery and devastation.![]()
I give this post two thumbs up.chickenlegs03 said:Sarging, or approaching lots of women just because they are hot, shows you have no understanding of attraction. It's a waste of time, and you're just proving that your time isn't worth anything else.
When you start treating yourself as already being what you want to become, you have a lot more self-respect, and don't waste time on petty sh*t like "sarging." You grasp the fact that time truly is money, and you just wasted your money.
Women choose you, as Player_Supreme says. And then you go talk to them.
The more you start to chase your dreams and passions, the concept of sarging becomes more lame. I just don't get it. I see women during the day and I go talk to them. Why should I dedicate or schedule a time to go out for the sole purpose of meeting chicks if I am already taking the opportunities life throws at me?
I work in an office setting, in front of a computer nearly all day. And after my day job, I spend several hours working on my businesses. If I was a lame-ass moron, I would use that as an excuse to never meet any women outside of my workplace.
Luckily, I am smarter than that. Rather than sulk, I go out often. I'll go do my business work at a local coffee shop. I spend my afternoons walking in town, talking to people.
You must be able to enjoy your own company for anyone else to enjoy it with you. I have had a hard time grasping this for most of my life, and I am finally getting the hang of it. I am starting to just go out and do whatever. Treat myself to dinner at a fancy restaurant, going to just check out the Maserati at the dealership, just doing whatever that I feel like doing, and having FUN with myself. Managing my time wisely, and not using work as an excuse to be boring. Everyday is an adventure.
That's why I think sarging is lame and boring. I live everyday...I think most people just exist, and sarging is not nearly as exciting.
If you don't get it now, I hope you do someday.
Thanks for your time, you may now go back to your bullsh*t discussions.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
In my own experience meeting women by cold approach is worthless. It has very low success rate. I don't like trying to convince a girl to talk to me when I could already have the initial interest and get to know her without effort.sjchris said:chickenlegs03: Obviously YOU are the one with little to no self respect or confidence when you sit here condemning a practice that allows us to achieve our GOAL of meeting and attracting beautiful women. I have goals too, business and leisure oriented, but I'm mature enough to understand that you need to devote time in your life to women, or else you will never truly be happy.
And your whole concept of women choosing you really makes you look an AFC. I would recommend you delete your post if you want to save some dignity on this board.
I second it... would like to also add.. that there is a difference between a women "chosing" you and being "don Juan" who is a seduction artist...SELF-MASTERY said:I agree with player_supreme that "the woman chooses you." I also think that your entire day can become a sarge without even trying-- I've met women at banks, in the checkout line, in bookstores, at gas stations, and just randomly. I can't bring myself to llook down on guys that are out in the field trying to gain experience. Yes, they might be "ho chasers," but who gives a fk, because some of these fools are trying to build confidence, and are overcoming their fears.
One step at a time.
BTW What a regurgitative post...
Create Reality said:Sarging only really works when you get buying signals. .
DonJuanByNature said:MAN>>>> IM MAD AT YOU>.. you obviously havent read everything on this site.. listen, obviously if you get buying signals you will have more sucess, DUH.. but this does not mean that sarging will not work on a girl with zero buying signals.. let me tell you something.. i.e. have you heard "right place at right time"
I ended up having a 3some like that.... I fcked girls in the bathroom cause I was at right place at right time... plenty of stories... and it was obvious to me that the girl was out of my league... i.e. a hot model that I hooked up with just cause i happen to sarge on her at the right time...
i.e. she might be completely not interested in you.. and you say something like "wow, you dont look like your in such a good mood, i tell you what, i just moved here and im looking something to do, lets get of here and go chill back at my place" CASE CLOSED...
Ahh, a premade joke, woot!Exp said:Of course not, I inserted the name.You can do the same, just change chickenleg03 to something else.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
KoalaKing said:You obviously veiw the hot babes as being the ultimate prize and not yourself, I feel sorry for you, there are so many opportunities to meet hot babes in everyday life situations, if you are desperate in your search for a hot babe you will never meet one, never think about them until you see one that you like then approach her and speak to her, you should be the prize and not her, live your life for yourself, not for a hot babe, they are everywhere that you go, you don't have to specifically spend all of your time searching for them, they appear in your everyday life, if you build a power within they will come to you, walk like a King, talk like a King, see yourself as the Prize and do what you want to do, don't let them control how you live, I used to and it caused me nothing but heartache misery and devastation.![]()
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
chickenlegs03 said:Sarging, or approaching lots of women just because they are hot, shows you have no understanding of attraction. It's a waste of time, and you're just proving that your time isn't worth anything else.
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Thanks for your time, you may now go back to your bullsh*t discussions.
Agreed 100%. I simply don't do it, there's no point in it.chickenlegs03 said:Sarging, or approaching lots of women just because they are hot, shows you have no understanding of attraction. It's a waste of time, and you're just proving that your time isn't worth anything else.
When you start treating yourself as already being what you want to become, you have a lot more self-respect, and don't waste time on petty sh*t like "sarging." You grasp the fact that time truly is money, and you just wasted your money.
Women choose you, as Player_Supreme says. And then you go talk to them.
The more you start to chase your dreams and passions, the concept of sarging becomes more lame. I just don't get it. I see women during the day and I go talk to them. Why should I dedicate or schedule a time to go out for the sole purpose of meeting chicks if I am already taking the opportunities life throws at me?
I work in an office setting, in front of a computer nearly all day. And after my day job, I spend several hours working on my businesses. If I was a lame-ass moron, I would use that as an excuse to never meet any women outside of my workplace.
Luckily, I am smarter than that. Rather than sulk, I go out often. I'll go do my business work at a local coffee shop. I spend my afternoons walking in town, talking to people.
You must be able to enjoy your own company for anyone else to enjoy it with you. I have had a hard time grasping this for most of my life, and I am finally getting the hang of it. I am starting to just go out and do whatever. Treat myself to dinner at a fancy restaurant, going to just check out the Maserati at the dealership, just doing whatever that I feel like doing, and having FUN with myself. Managing my time wisely, and not using work as an excuse to be boring. Everyday is an adventure.
That's why I think sarging is lame and boring. I live everyday...I think most people just exist, and sarging is not nearly as exciting.
If you don't get it now, I hope you do someday.
Thanks for your time, you may now go back to your bullsh*t discussions.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.