"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Same problem, another guy - suggestions???

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There is this one girl that works at the same place where I do. We know eachother for 2 years. 2 months ago she broke up with her boyfriend. She was devasted when she found out that he was cheating on her with her best friend.

So I became her new "best friend"; we got really close and at a certain moment I guess that she really was into me. Anyway in the meantime there was a party where we both went. At that party we hooked up. The problem arised after the party, when we met at work. She pretended that nothing had happened. I was devastated because I really fallen into her. Anyway I didn't want to give up on her so i've insisted; i started to follow her everywhere being like a little puppy, to listen to all her problems, calling her, trying to fullfill all her wishes. Obviously she noticed that I became a puppet in her hands and she started to lose interest in me. Still she continued giving me confused signals, that's why I suggested her to be together but she gave me an evasive answer.

I'm not the kind of man that chases a woman or who gets involved very often. After 2 weeks of suffering I decided that she's not worthy of me so I gave up on her although I still had feeling for her. The problem was that I worked with her so "the breakup" was more dificult.

Now here comes the real problem. I went out of town for 2 weeks and all this time I didn't call or see her. I realised that i've lost my shot with her in the moment that I turned into a "woman" by becaming her best friend.

Anyway now that I'm back she flirts with me again, all her friends are making comments when we talk or when we are side to side, she blushes and ****s like that. I'm really confused because I'm getting the same confused signals.

Now my instinct tells me that I have another chance with her. I still want her but the difference this time is that I wanna do things the right way. I don't wanna became a loser again. This time I wanna get the girl. She is always protected by her female friends and every time that I want to talk with her some of her friends comes to rescue her.

How should I approach her?

I'm open to any suggestions.
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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So I became her new "best friend"
I was devastated because I really fallen into her.
I suggested her to be together but she gave me an evasive answer.

I don't wanna became a loser again.
You answer your own question so well :D, have a cookie. Don't repeat past mistakes.

every time that I want to talk with her some of her friends comes to rescue her.
Because she's just trying to keep you around. She doesn't have true feelings. It'd be best to back right off, 'disappear' if you can. She's just playing hot/cold, and when you aren't around, she's telling her friends about how much she doesn't like you, yet you'd make a good friend.
 

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Docs Mentions A Good Point.

Just Disappear.

Ignore Her A Bit.

Start To Play With Her Emotions.

Dont Call Her At All.

If She Calls You, Talk For A Couple Minutes And Then Say You Have To Go Somewhere And Have To Go.
 

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Ok I got the ideea with disappearing but what should I do when I meet her at work? How should I act in her presence?
 

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Play it cool grasshopper. Your posts ooze anxiety about this - we understand. Just try and chill out when you see her. Say hello and smile and pretty much be aloof' around her. She'll come to you.

You know the best analogy I can think of is treat her like a cat - if you have ever had them as pets they respond to people that pretty much leave them alone - let them come you.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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