maenad said:
Make outs will hurt your chances of getting a one night stand. I learned that a few months ago and actually got advice from girls on it, they said that "we know that make outs in a club are harmless, but when a guy takes us home we know were gonna have sex with him"
Agreed. I'm not sure of the exact reasons why it is so, but experience shows it to be true. I've had some really heavy "you two should get a room" type makeout sessions in the club or bar. Guess what? I was never able to pull those girls. All of my pulls involved zero kissing to a light, quick makeout.
Maybe heavy making out just makes it WAY too obvious you want to F her. You are laying (pun intended lol) your cards on the table and thus activating her anti-sl*t defense.
Plus, I think there is some element of leaving her wanting more. You are sending the message to her that, "Hon, I want to fool around with you, but this (the club/bar) just isn't the place. Come back with me."
Plus I think minimizing the making out in the bar/club shows a level of class, restraint, and most importantly non-neediness compared to the 100 other guys that desperately want to jam their tongues down her throat.
I was amazed that you could even pull with ZERO kissing sometimes. It's totally counterintuitive, but I've done it.