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said stupid sh1t at end of date after kiss close, what to do?

pete101

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im a dumba$$, i was on a 2nd date with a girl, everything went perfect.. we eventually kissed at the end and for some reason i said to her after we kissed 'my mum would be so disappointed..' she goes 'why?' i go 'cos i keep missing class..' she goes: 'do u miss class a lot?' i go: 'not really but im always late..'

i duno why i say stupid stuff right at the end of dates.. i must have tourettes or something.. i get nervous when kiss closing i cant seem to switch my mouth off.. she looked angry after i said that and said she had to go cos she was late. clearly she took it as.. 'my mum wouldn't approve of me dating you..'

i coulda said something else but no.. f-ing idiot. am i better off not mentioning it when i call her in a few days? or should i say something?

i think i have to next her now after that mishap..
 

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i'd say both to be honest.. i say stupid stuff when im nervous.. my brain thinks of something and i just speak my mind. i need to think before i speak.. even as it was happening i was thinking this isn't a good idea to say this.. yet i still said it.

its happened so many times now that i just accept it rather than try to fix the problem. another example is when i no. close then try to date close a time and if she tells me to speak tomorrow or call tomorrow without giving me a def time i seem to keep trying to nail down a time cos i feel she'll flake otherwise.. this makes me look desperate yet i dont seem to stop. go figure.

also, i should mention this girl i saw isn't the same race as me so she would take it as 'my mum would not approve of me dating someone of your race..'
does your advice still count for in this situation?
 

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pete101 said:
i think i have to next her now after that mishap..

I wouldn't worry too much about "nexting" her. I'm sure she'll do it for you.



Cheers!
 

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romangod said:
I wouldn't worry too much about "nexting" her. I'm sure she'll do it for you.



Cheers!
well then shouldn't i explain myself?

when i said it i didn't mean for it to come out that way.. i was going to make a joke but then i realised halfway through it could be a contentious issue and at that point it was too late cos i already said it.. and trying to save it i said the wrong thing.
 

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No, don't next. You have to learn how to turn these situations around and this will be good practice.

She has filed this incident away in her mental folder of reasons to dump you. But the fact you had a good date and kissed, she'll be ok.

Give her the weekend off and call her up monday and don't mention it. Just get her laughing and tease her a little and leave her hanging for more. That should reset your absolutely moronic moment.

Do you usually saw stupid stuff in any social situation where you are nervous? Or just with women?

The less you say the better. Remember that. Let her mind go off on it's own building you up into this fantasy guy.

Good job getter her that far, though. You can turn this around.
given that shes a different race to me and cos i said what i said would what u said still apply?

i feel like an explanation is needed.. although real men dont explain..
 

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She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Dude was right, she did file it in the Reasons to Dump You folder that she will open up two weeks or two years from now and act like it happened yesterday. Give this incident no further influence by NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Do not explain.

And don't say things like "real men don't explain" unless you actually believe it.
 
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