"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Sad I missed the boat on young girls..

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Dan Bautista

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No... just accept that I'll never fulfill my desires and experience women particularly young women in my life and move on.
I struggle to see the point of this thread. This isn't just an expression of your feelings but your way of asking for our opinion. Though you want our opinion, you're hell-bent on not changing yours, regardless of what anyone else says.

Why don't you stop being miserable and try going out? Going to clubs even in their 40s may work for some and it may not work for you. Find out what works for you.

You're obviously going to fail your first few attempts, like everyone else has, but you'd rather try than be a miserable person unwilling to change himself because of false beliefs about himself.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Note, I had been in an 8 month slump, getting lots of numbers and kisses but lots of flakes. But I didn't assume that meant I was over the hill.

A few months prior I had invested in a camera (Sony a6000) and become a professional photographer. I had done 3 photo shoots with one model but she had a boyfriend. Next I hired a 20 year old model (absolutely my favorite girl of all). Hiring a model is a great thing to do. When they get paid for the job it lets them invest in a haircut, makeup, new dress, etc. so it's always money well spent. You obviously can never imply they have to do anything - ever. But it often becomes romantic when they send you 40 texts with photos of every garment they are preparing and it's highly erotic. You get a chance to let them live out a fantasy and you hopefully make them feel super beautiful.

The photo shoot of the 20 year old led to her inviting herself back to my place where we had sex. We've been having sex ever since. In the following weeks 2 other women (including the first model last night) threw themselves at me, specifically after seeing those photos (allowing me to maintain composure with the 20 year old and give her space), and a fourth girl showed up during a week when the 20 year old was MIA. And now a fifth girl - my Oneitis ex from 2011 who I suppose I still love - came back on FB when she saw the first "couple" photo of the 20 year old and I (our 2 month anniversary).

So I plan to hire a lot more models and take a lot more photos (generally I choose the classiest strippers and the rule is no tattoos), especially now that I have a portfolio.
 
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Note, I had been in an 8 month slump, getting lots of numbers and kisses but lots of flakes. But I didn't assume that meant I was over the hill.

A few months prior I had invested in a camera (Sony a6000) and become a professional photographer. I had done 3 photo shoots with one model but she had a boyfriend. Next I hired a 20 year old model (absolutely my favorite girl of all). Hiring a model is a great thing to do. When they get paid for the job it lets them invest in a haircut, makeup, new dress, etc. so it's always money well spent. You obviously can never imply they have to do anything - ever. But it often becomes romantic when they send you 40 texts with photos of every garment they are preparing and it's highly erotic. You get a chance to let them live out a fantasy and you hopefully make them feel super beautiful.

The photo shoot of the 20 year old led to her inviting herself back to my place where we had sex. We've been having sex ever since. In the following weeks 2 other women (including the first model last night) threw themselves at me, specifically after seeing those photos (allowing me to maintain composure with the 20 year old and give her space), and a fourth girl who showed up during a week when the 20 year old was MIA. And now a fifth girl - my Oneitis ex from 2011 who I suppose I still love - came back on FB when she saw the first couples photo of the 20 year old and I.

So I plan to hire a lot more models and take a lot more photos, especially now that I have a portfolio.
Exactly my point. There's so many people out there doing what you say is impossible though their way of approach isn't the same. Maybe what you're doing now isn't working out for you because it's not supposed to. You could try hiring models as well but that may not work out for you so it's your job to find out what works for you.
 

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I struggle to see the point of this thread. This isn't just an expression of your feelings but your way of asking for our opinion. Though you want our opinion, you're hell-bent on not changing yours, regardless of what anyone else says.
I agree. This is ridiculous.

OP: You've basically set up this fantasy script of how life is supposed to play out, and because it's not gone the way you fantasised it would, you're subjecting yourself to misery.. out of choice. Why?
 

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I suppose I'm venting my frustration and I wanted to see what your opinions were, since from my perspective it is over.

The thing that gets me is while I'm sure it's possible it doesn't seem like it could happen in a natural way like it could have done when I was younger, for example going to a party or night club now is not going to get me anywhere with the young set. It now feels like I need to put the effort in just to get the sex, instead of being carefree and letting it all occur organically i.e. just socialising with people your age and meeting the opposite sex, no one my age parties or attends these clubs anymore, so it's a bit of a problem for me. It's that experience I'm after, basically what you would have done in your early 20s, the sex is just the topping on the cake so to speak.

@bigneil I think that's great what you do really, but it's just not me, not the experience I'm after really...
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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