Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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i will have to agree with you goldenboy

the way i look at it is this, dj discussion is suppose to be about how to be a dj and how ot behave and become a dj, unless you are trying to make your male friend to be a dj or else i think it will be a better place if you post it on the "anything else" section. but then i am no moderator so my opinion doesnt count :) just out of curiousity dreamychick you ever feel weird to post on a dj forum when the intent purpose of this forum is about how to be a better gentlemen? (no offense to you but i dont think sosuave reader actually care about how girls think) and how did you find out about this forum anyhow?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dreamy chick, This is like the reverse of my problem. Girls are always trying to beat me up. But anyways, I think he got drunk and horny and tried to get you into wrestling him into the bedroom. Still that is weird behavior for a 22 year old. But then again jumpin an angel like me is weird for a bunch of ladies in their twenties to do. What a crazee world we live in. Maybe this guy should be introduced to the girls that fight me at my school LOL :D
 

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Originally posted by gOLDENBoy83
I don't want girls to intrude this fortress.
I'm not quite sure whether it's from fastseduction.com or from David DeAngelo, but here it is: "Never talk about the process."
Goldenboy, I am not trying to be rude here, but why do you care so much. It's almost as though you fear a female's presence here because this forum is dedicated to getting a woman. Well, I assure you your game will not be messed up because I ask question. Also I have been out living my life, and haven't posted here in over six months. Don't be hatin' that's all I got to say.

Thanks to all the DJs that offered their perspectives I appreciate it greatly.

PS Goldenboy, I've been a member of this board long before you came along. Go ahead look at my stats.

I used Google and discovered the site. Just typed in dating and a link popped up. :) Have a great day!
 

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Originally posted by joecollapoppa
Dreamy chick, This is like the reverse of my problem. Girls are always trying to beat me up. But anyways, I think he got drunk and horny and tried to get you into wrestling him into the bedroom. Still that is weird behavior for a 22 year old. But then again jumpin an angel like me is weird for a bunch of ladies in their twenties to do. What a crazee world we live in. Maybe this guy should be introduced to the girls that fight me at my school LOL :D
Dare I admit that I am one of these girls. I like to playfully swat at a guy I like, but I usually just try to play with his hair.

I was able to talk to my friend and I asked him what his deal was last night and he said he plays with all his friends this way guys and girls included. Hmmm....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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DreamyChick

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Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by farstrider
the way i look at it is this, dj discussion is suppose to be about how to be a dj and how ot behave and become a dj, unless you are trying to make your male friend to be a dj or else i think it will be a better place if you post it on the "anything else" section. but then i am no moderator so my opinion doesnt count :) just out of curiousity dreamychick you ever feel weird to post on a dj forum when the intent purpose of this forum is about how to be a better gentlemen? (no offense to you but i dont think sosuave reader actually care about how girls think) and how did you find out about this forum anyhow?
hi farstrider,

To answer your question I don't feel weird at all about posting here. I would think a male member of the board would consider my question as a compliment to their knowledge of their own sex. But I am sorry you don't see it that way. Have a wonderful day!
 

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You pants

Hey, Dreamy

Blow him off. (he is just a punk)
All he was trying to do was get in your pants.

cave dweller
 

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Re: Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by DreamyChick
hi farstrider,

To answer your question I don't feel weird at all about posting here. I would think a male member of the board would consider my question as a compliment to their knowledge of their own sex. But I am sorry you don't see it that way. Have a wonderful day!
I am going to say this once and only once.

What seems like a complement in one sex, is an insult to the other sex. What is an insult in one sex, is a complement in another sex.

Girl telling a guy he looks like her brother = Girls thinks it's a complement, guy hears an insult.

Guy telling a girl he likes that he only wants to be an aquaintance = Guy thinks it's a complement, girl hears an insult

Why is it like this?

Women value friendship
Men value sex

Men need a lot of sex and Women need very little of it.

Women need lots of friendship and Men need very little of it.

Each one needs something from the other one.

Ponder that for a few millenium...

And I know that there are going to be both guys and girls who will always think that this isn't the case, so flame away if you disagree. I already know better.
 

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Re: You pants

Originally posted by cave dweller
Hey, Dreamy

Blow him off. (he is just a punk)
All he was trying to do was get in your pants.

cave dweller
thanks
 

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Re: Re: Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by rgeere
I am going to say this once and only once.

What seems like a compliment in one sex, is an insult to the other sex. What is an insult in one sex, is a compliment in another sex.

Girl telling a guy he looks like her brother = Girls thinks it's a compliment, guy hears an insult.

Guy telling a girl he likes that he only wants to be an aquaintance = Guy thinks it's a compliment, girl hears an insult

Why is it like this?

Women value friendship
Men value sex

Men need a lot of sex and Women need very little of it.

Women need lots of friendship and Men need very little of it.

Each one needs something from the other one.

Ponder that for a few millenium...

And I know that there are going to be both guys and girls who will always think that this isn't the case, so flame away if you disagree. I already know better.
Wow, I agree with you 100% !!!! You hit that on the mark. Good job.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Re: Re: Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by rgeere
Girl telling a guy he looks like her brother = Girls thinks it's a complement, guy hears an insult.
I've been told this before, and yes I was insulted. Was I supposed to take it as a compliment? What does this girl-speak really mean?
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by DreamyChick
Wow, I agree with you 100% !!!! You hit that on the mark. Good job.
Good, now that we are on par let me explain a few things.....

Despite the fact that this place is largely accessable to a wide variety people, including the average idiot with a computer and internet activity, many men see women posting on this forum as a threat to their understanding about the way life works.

In a way they are correct, since the only real way that a man can receive valid advice is to hear advice from a man that truly knows the ropes and what he is talking about, which is very very rare because I have found that even men on this forum who are successful seem to be missing the knowledge about what it is that they do right. When they give advice they say that the fact that the can get laid by x amount of women has to be because of something that they just do and completely ignore certain aspects that explain why a woman reacts the way that she does.

But then again they are just that successful, so they don't feel that it's valid to know why a woman reacts the way she does. Either way he will succeed.

In a way I believe that women should hold their tounges when they come to this forum and let other men help them. Men who know what they are talking about.

Personally, I think that the only greater threat to a woman posting in this forum is one of these inexperienced idiots that has no clue what he is talking about. It defeats the purpose of other people coming here because other inexperienced people have no clue what is right or wrong and have to weed out a lot of stuff to get to relevant matter. It takes longer for them to realize what is good advice and what isn't.

So yeah, women should hold their tounges and idiots should be linched.

I'm done rambling...
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: i will have to agree with you goldenboy

Originally posted by ShortTimer
I've been told this before, and yes I was insulted. Was I supposed to take it as a compliment? What does this girl-speak really mean?
Women do not put a hugh amount of emphasis in sex in their own minds. They believe that telling a guy who they don't have feelings for that he is like a brother to her is good because girls look up to their brothers and their capabilities. They don't understand that men value sex as much s they do.

Women who truly understand themselves and men would not say these sort of things because they will releize that they are toying with the fact that men compete for the "most capable" status. '

Deep down the real reason a man is offended is because it seems the woman is saying that he is incapable of
giving her healthy children.

Women value friendship and allowing them to befriend you without them willing to give you a sexual return is
a denial of your manhood unless you know you are capable of getting other women to want you to bone their brains out. Then who cares if one of them doesn't care for you.

Yes they do get horny and yes they do screw a multitude of guys. Women will screw the best thing they can find at the moment when other people arn't looking at who they are screwing.
 

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Men need a lot of sex and Women need very little of it.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

This is the single biggest misconception in all of human society. Women need sex more than men, they just are punished for satisfying that need while men are rewarded.
 

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Originally posted by Superman X
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

This is the single biggest misconception in all of human society. Women need sex more than men, they just are punished for satisfying that need while men are rewarded.
I knew someone was going to try to flag me on this.

Actually, it's not a misconception. As far as reproduction is concerned women instinctivelly chose the most capable men. They need very little of it with men who satify their need for quality.


Women will often settle for whoever is best for her at the moment when no one is looking, though.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Hey wow this post is a year old and I have an update on this guy. Anyone want to hear it?
 

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Lets have it
 

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Well here I go anyway...

Those who feel like responding go for it.

I saw the same guy this weekend in the above mentioned post. Apparently a guy and a girl can be friends with limited things in common. I dont know how but we manage it. Anyway I called him and mentioned I was bored so he invited me over to see his new mansion of a house. He was working on a motorcycle that he was repairing from a collision with a deer. I was instructed to help by insuring that the motion light stayed on so he could see. He wouldn't let me touch the bike other wise bc he said I didn't have a clue. We spent some time neg hitting each other him calling me retarded and me calling him lame and in need of fashion help.

For some reason my southern accent always comes out and he takes every opportunity to tease me relentlessly about it bc I dont really like when I sound like when I sound like a country girl. I even laced in a I love you in a joke but he was absorbed in his bike and didnt want me to know he noticed I said it.

I gave him a long list of suggestions for sprucing the bike up one which included using black handle bars instead of the gray ones. He pretended not to like this idea and said that he like it as is and thought it was cool, but after standing back a few minutes staring at the bike he let on that I might be right.

Everytime he reminded me to turn the motion light back on I reminded him I wasnt his slave and didnt sign up for this and he was all I thought we were hanging out and you said you'd help me and this is how you can help me. Go turn the light back on. So I did. We made jokes about why we were friends and he said he was still my friend bc he was trying to get rid of an infinite amount of pity and I said that I found absolutely pathetic.

I loved our banter. I took none of it seriously and I knew that though he was engrossed in his bike he still had ears that were listening to every sound I made. He offered me a beer several times and I reminded him that as long as I have to drive home I dont drink.

Finally he gave up on his bike and he gave me a grand tour of the mansion. It was very nice. Finally, I encouraged him to join me in a game of pool even though I suck at it and it turned into 7 games with me laughing like crazy and him saying he had never seen anyone suck so bad. He tried to teach me how to hold it properly by demonstrating himself and he never overstepped boundaries by touching me in a too personal way that you expect from some one who finds another person attractive.

I loved it by game 7 he was digging it and I was still feeling competive. We made a bet on his his next shot saying that if he got it in I'd have to do anything he wanted for a day and if he didnt then he would have to do anything I wanted. Well he had an impossible shot and so I let him move the cue ball so there we were he got it in and I had to hold up my end of the bargin. He asked me for boundaries and I first wanted to know where he was wanting to go with our bet so I asked what he was thinking. He wouldnt budge on telling me but I wanted to move forward with the bet so I called him Anally retentive and he goes ha ha thats what I want you to do stick this pool stick...... and I was like you gotta be kidding me right and he's like come on you said anything and I was like I know you dont want to see anything like that and he was like your probably right and then he wouldnt come up with anything only saying that he wanted to know my boundaries.

But then he was like okay it was really your win so what do you want me to do and so I asked for his boundaries and he wouldnt tell me and I was like well it was your win so think of something
so we stood there for 30 minutes debating this and he was like everything I want you to do you wouldnt and I was like try me
and he was all itd be humilating. At that moment I wanted to see if he would hold up his word and just kiss me but I chickened out.

Then it was 5 am and we were tired as all get out and he kept waiting for me to leave but he wouldnt tell me to go and he was all if you stay here DC your mom will be worried (bc he thinks shes overprotective) and besides I dont have any furniture bc I just moved in.

So I was like Dude i am too tired to drive and he just sat there and I said but if you really want me to go I will and hes sat there in silence. He wouldnt tell me to go. And I was like it will be fine but ill go and then he was all are you sure you'll be okay to drive home and I was all I dont know and he was finally okay you can stay after I was down the stairs. I was like are you sure and he was like yeah I dont want you to have an accident. So he set me up a futon in his room and we went to sleep. And no I didnt jump his bones I was good I am always good so I dont know what his problem is and why we had that debate.

Anyone care to shed some light on why I feel like he doesn't trust us to be alone together let alone trusting that we will be fine if I have to crash at his house.
 

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I think some good sex would be great for the both of ya
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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