"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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KontrollerX said:
"what is this fantasy ideal guy?"


Well they tend to like the jerk because remember they want what they can't have and what they want to get from the jerk is his love for her so that then they can move on and abandon this man's love as their mother abandoned symbollically her love for her daughter by leaving or neglecting her in some way when she was young.

As for why the looks insults are not so easily forgiven...

Well by just being an AW they have so many impairments from the personality disorder that they cannot truly love themselves or find themselves of value. Value and love that they can hold onto and draw strength from you know?
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Interesting seeing as how she cries about guys using her for her body.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Heh heh yep Sosilky that is a classic AW line.

See how it takes away their accountability for agreeing to all the sexual encounters?

They are the innocent victim baby always in their minds.

Never an active participant.

To have sex with an AW you are transformed into a masturbatory object by them and the act can seem amazing but if you think about it, its also mechanical point a to point b with no real intimacy being exchanged.

Total objectification and emotional disconnection.
 

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Heh heh yep Sosilky that is a classic AW line.

See how it takes away their accountability for agreeing to all the sexual encounters?

They are the innocent victim baby always in their minds.

Never an active participant.

To have sex with an AW you are transformed into a masturbatory object by them and the act can seem amazing but if you think about it, its also mechanical point a to point b with no real intimacy being exchanged.

Total objectification and emotional disconnection.




well i mean i've nailed her allot. anyways how do i get her for ripping on her for being ugly and ripping on her childhood? probly just get over it? let her cool off? oh i called her crazy too. i've noticed attention *****s hate that too. by the way what do you think of this? http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143003
 

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Yeah let her cool off and just don't mention your previous fights with her.

Treat them like they didn't exist unless she brings them up in which case you try to cleverly transition your way out of talking about those things of the past and instead where you'd like to take her on a date.
 

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Yeah let her cool off and just don't mention your previous fights with her.

Treat them like they didn't exist unless she brings them up in which case you try to cleverly transition your way out of talking about those things of the past and instead where you'd like to take her on a date.
thanx way what do you think of this? http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=143003
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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This is amazing, the girl who I am "talking" to right now is exactly, 110% a AW as Kontroller explains it.

we have been dating/talking/fighting for like 5 months, and we haven't stayed together for more than a few weeks at a time. She talks to tons of different guys, and requires so much f-ing attention it's not even funny. In the beginning I treated her like my girl, gave her attention etc., but it was never enough, she always had guys texting her, she has a myspace/facebook/bodyspace and just about every other online profile thing to gain more attention.

I finally realized this and after we stopped talking one week I texted her to "fvck off and stop annoying me", she basically emailed me and texted me a bunch of times for a 2 week span of silence on how she just wants to talk to me. And of course once I gave in and started talking to her again it was back to the same old ****.

My question for kontroller is, unfortunatly I actually care about her, I wish I didn't but my emotions got involved before I realized she was just an AW, is there an easy way to forget about her and turn her into a fvck buddy ? We currently have sex when we aren't fighting or not talking to each other, but I wish could get to the point where I don't care, unfortunately it bugs the fvck out of me that I hear from her roommate that she went on a date or something.
 

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JeffMerr said:
This is amazing, the girl who I am "talking" to right now is exactly, 110% a AW as Kontroller explains it.

we have been dating/talking/fighting for like 5 months, and we haven't stayed together for more than a few weeks at a time. She talks to tons of different guys, and requires so much f-ing attention it's not even funny. In the beginning I treated her like my girl, gave her attention etc., but it was never enough, she always had guys texting her, she has a myspace/facebook/bodyspace and just about every other online profile thing to gain more attention.

I finally realized this and after we stopped talking one week I texted her to "fvck off and stop annoying me", she basically emailed me and texted me a bunch of times for a 2 week span of silence on how she just wants to talk to me. And of course once I gave in and started talking to her again it was back to the same old ****.

My question for kontroller is, unfortunatly I actually care about her, I wish I didn't but my emotions got involved before I realized she was just an AW, is there an easy way to forget about her and turn her into a fvck buddy ? We currently have sex when we aren't fighting or not talking to each other, but I wish could get to the point where I don't care, unfortunately it bugs the fvck out of me that I hear from her roommate that she went on a date or something.
kontroller has a ton of good posts on this you should check it out. anyways good question though. looking forward to his answer. I'm going to assume it will be something like spinning plates.
 

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"is there an easy way to forget about her and turn her into a fvck buddy ?"

HAHAHA!!!

Sorry dude I'm not laughing at your pain but just the twisted idea you've put forth that you hope there is a way you can forget about this AW that you've developed feelings for and just transition her into a fvck buddy.

Dude keeping her around as a fvck buddy is just going to fuel your emotions for her and you may begin to doubt everything that I've said which you've just praised and think you can change her or if she gets help things will be smooth sailing.

First off again you can't help her or save her that is a decision she needs to make for herself.

Second of all and once again the only thing that can help any of them is therapy from a tried and true licensed professional and it is no guarantee even then that she will get better and even if she does what attracted her to you will no longer exist and she will then most likely want to start fresh with someone completey detached from her AW life so that she can begin her first healthy relationship.

So I will give you the real answer if you want to eliminate her hold over your emotions and indeed it can take years to get over these sick b!tches but the answer that you won't like is still true regardless and is posted on all forums about these women and you will hear it from your therapist as well should you ever get therapy over it and the answer is without further ado...

NO CONTACT!

NONE!!

NADA!!!

ZIP!!!!

ZILCH!!!!!

Sorry brother but that is the truth.

If you truly want to move on and be over her you truly have to move on.

You will never ever not in a million years ever find the love and true relationship that you seek from an AW.

Only pain, heartache, misery and regret.

Well and maybe a session of hot fvcking in between all that but is it really worth it when you can harness your DJ skills and get a normal woman who can give you love and hot sex all of the time rather than in measured amounts that works to fvck with your mind so you crave the girl even more?

See guys come on here all the time and say how the sex is so much better than with normal chicks but it really isn't.

Its normal hot sex with the illusion it is better because you are more into it because of the mind game she has played on you.

While fvcking her you finally feel you have some control over this uncontrollable whirlwind of a girl and as you pound away at her its also a kind of punishment for her putting you through so much trouble and strife but like any drug addict the high is short lived and doesn't last.

Unplug my brother, I beseech thee, unplug.

Get a normal woman that is a freak in the sack as a first step towards your recovery.

Think of a normal freaky chick as a kind of nicotene patch or methadone clinic to help you break free of your previous self destructive hardcore addiction lol.
 

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Really appreciate the advice, I'm shocked that you can explain them so well, they must be all the same. This one too has issues with her mother/father, she also had addiction problems, she tells me stories about her past years of abusing vicodins etc. I remember as well when I stopped talking to her for that 2 week span she texted me stuff like "never mind I'm seeing someone now anyways", when I know for a fact she wasn't. Anyways don't mean to go on a tangent but wow this thread really made me realize she is a true AW.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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KontrollerX said:
"is there an easy way to forget about her and turn her into a fvck buddy ?"


Second of all and once again the only thing that can help any of them is therapy from a tried and true licensed professional and it is no guarantee even then that she will get better and even if she does what attracted her to you will no longer exist and she will then most likely want to start fresh with someone completey detached from her AW life so that she can begin her first healthy relationship.

Funny you should mention this. A few times I told her to go experience more. Give her easy outs. I didn't want to be anchored to this lifestyle of hers. told her I would see her in few months and see where we stand. She of course would start crying then.

KontrollerX said:
[See guys come on here all the time and say how the sex is so much better than with normal chicks but it really isn't.

Its normal hot sex with the illusion it is better because you are more into it because of the mind game she has played on you.

While fvcking her you finally feel you have some control over this uncontrollable whirlwind of a girl and as you pound away at her its also a kind of punishment for her putting you through so much trouble and strife but like any drug addict the high is short lived and doesn't last.

Thats hilarious! Yet it just might be true. Kontroller I'm starting to wonder why you know these chicks so well and when your gonna write a book. Where the hell did you get all this info? by the way her mother used to beat her (adopted mother) that a factor?
 

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JeffMerr said:
Really appreciate the advice, I'm shocked that you can explain them so well, they must be all the same. This one too has issues with her mother/father, she also had addiction problems, she tells me stories about her past years of abusing vicodins etc. I remember as well when I stopped talking to her for that 2 week span she texted me stuff like "never mind I'm seeing someone now anyways", when I know for a fact she wasn't. Anyways don't mean to go on a tangent but wow this thread really made me realize she is a true AW.
wow that chick is whacked
 

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"Really appreciate the advice, I'm shocked that you can explain them so well, they must be all the same."

You nailed it!

Yep they are pretty much all the same.

Go on any forum specifically about them like bpdfamily.org or someplace else and you'll find the members remarking "My god its like we dated the same woman!" heh heh.

Its sadly pretty much the truth.

"This one too has issues with her mother/father, she also had addiction problems, she tells me stories about her past years of abusing vicodins etc. I remember as well when I stopped talking to her for that 2 week span she texted me stuff like "never mind I'm seeing someone now anyways", when I know for a fact she wasn't. Anyways don't mean to go on a tangent but wow this thread really made me realize she is a true AW."

Glad to of opened and freed another mind to this horrible truth.

Oh and if you struggle with thoughts of how normal she has seemed to you and you just can't figure out where all the craziness has come from just know it was there all along and that the old phrase "kill em with kindness" heavily heavily applies to these people. They are kind of like a trojan horse to your heart I'd say. The normalcy act in the beginning is just so convincing and they seem oh so vulnerable you just let your guard down and then they begin to destroy you little by little so in the end you can barely recognize or know who you are. The relationship becomes gradually so much about them that you and your own sense of identity dissapear under their dark cloud of need.

"You got any links by chance? The more you know, heh"

Just use this forum's search feature which is located as a button near the top of the page.

Type in Attention Wh0re or Cluster B Personality Disorder or Histrionic or Borderline and you'll find tons of posts from me, jophil, reset, blue phoenix, rollo, pimp cicle and just about every other Sosuaver who has dealt with this kind of woman.

"Funny you should mention this. A few times I told her to go experience more. Give her easy outs. I didn't want to be anchored to this lifestyle of hers. told her I would see her in few months and see where we stand. She of course would start crying then."

Crying serves a dual purpose.

Mourning the abandonment of her by her mother which you leaving her would remind her of on a subconscious level.

Bring out your capn save a h0 instincts.

Crying because you now mean something strong to her ie the wanting of what they cannot have.

"Thats hilarious! Yet it just might be true. Kontroller I'm starting to wonder why you know these chicks so well and when your gonna write a book. Where the hell did you get all this info? by the way her mother used to beat her (adopted mother) that a factor?"

Well I was involved with two of them for starters, then to figure out what the hell happened to me I read Emotional Vampires, Hysteria, Without Conscience and tons of psychological literature I could get my hands on. I'm not sure I need to write a book as much as Dr. Phil and Oprah need to stop having shows about worthless bullsh!t and do one on personality disorders which effect the world on a major scale as these disorders include sociopathy and narcissism which are two disordered types that do a ton of damage to the white collar working world as well as wherever they show up to wreak havoc. So yeah Phil and Oprah would do a great service to the world to promote the books that are already out there on these conditions. Emotional Vampires would be the easiest read for the general populace.

As for the mother beating her playing a factor if it was the adopted mother I doubt it. Pretty sure the disorders have to be caused in some way by the biological mother. Though I suppose if she were raised from birth by the adopted mother and was beaten since then it could produce enough trauma to bring about BPD but the abuse would of had to happen in early childhood.
 

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It's simple. The way to win this "game" is to not play. You win. It's FUN to win. Play, and you will lose. I love simple games. :up: But you seem determined to play. Unfortunately, you are playing her game and you will lose. She plays the game way better.
 

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Oh and if you struggle with thoughts of how normal she has seemed to you and you just can't figure out where all the craziness has come from just know it was there all along and that the old phrase "kill em with kindness" heavily heavily applies to these people. They are kind of like a trojan horse to your heart I'd say. The normalcy act in the beginning is just so convincing and they seem oh so vulnerable you just let your guard down and then they begin to destroy you little by little so in the end you can barely recognize or know who you are. The relationship becomes gradually so much about them that you and your own sense of identity dissapear under their dark cloud of need. .

Thats dead nails on. Scary part is is she thinks she's not the nedy one. She would swear I was
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I agree with Kontroller about the Mother. But I disagree with him somewhat about the father. I believe it's an important ingredient. Most of what I have observed is that the father was absent in some way either physically or emotionally.
 

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The mother is pretty much the responsible party for the development of the personality disorder persistant exaction there we agree and I could also agree with you that the father may play a role in aggravating the severity of the disorder as far as the unending need for attention goes.

All AW require an enormous amount of attention but perhaps the ones who had terrible fathers require even more attention than a BPD or HPD with a good father.

Now THAT is a scary thought lol.
 

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As for the mother beating her playing a factor if it was the adopted mother I doubt it. Pretty sure the disorders have to be caused in some way by the biological mother. Though I suppose if she were raised from birth by the adopted mother and was beaten since then it could produce enough trauma to bring about BPD but the abuse would of had to happen in early childhood.

Hmmmmm.... wonder what that means. shes still an AW right? how early is early childhood? guess if she was getting beat thee had to be some neglect to right?
 

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The age of two years old is when the baby either learns proper empathy and love relations or not and this is learned through the mother responding appropriately to not only the child's loving gaze with a smile and love of her own but also the mother looking at the child's genitals and thus acknowledging the child's sexuality as something to be identified and respected.

The mothers of histrionics and borderlines who are usually borderlines and histrionics themselves keep the disorder going by giving the wrong reactions to a child's love because they themselves do not know how to love so a baby's loving gaze may be met with a blank stare by a histrionic parent and a time the baby needs to be hugged and validated by momma the histrionic will put it in its crib far too soon and in that way abandon it.

Its this sort of thing simple as it sounds that creates borderlines and histrionics.

Not acknowledging the genitals ever during bath time the histrionic or borderline parent will look away as they wash their child so to compensate the child grows up into a BPD or HPD and their whole body is thus transformed into a sex object rather than their genitals being confined to being the sex object.

This is why and how they are so incredibly seductive.
 
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