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Tenacity,

I agree with you that good decent men are getting screwed over every day. Even women who think they are "good women" have been so brainwashed by feminism and our culture that they don't realize how offensive and selfish they are.

I alluded to this in my last post, but didn't say it directly. But I will now. I believe there are still some decent women, but they are over a certain age. And, no, there aren't huge numbers of them, but there are some. I think the lowest age is around 45 or so. There was still some small vestige of decency and normalcy with regard to marriage and family life that they may have been exposed to. They are somewhat more common than a unicorn.

Under 45? It's a total train wreck. I feel for you younger guys. It really would be like finding a unicorn.

-Augustus-
 

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What do you believe is your purpose here with this physical existence? Is it to create a life of nirvana and life happily ever after--or--is to be challenged endlessly to constantly evolve but never quite reach the ideal state of happiness until you have completely metamorphosed into your "purpose," and if said purpose is not attained within this physicality, then the ideal state of happiness becomes unattainable--or?

This is a larger question. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Got it. Right now I've just created a list of things that I would like to accomplish between now and the next 27 - 30 years before I turn 60 - 62 and enter into "old age retirement". Basically I'm looking to have everything "done" by 60 to where there's literally nothing else left for me to do but to "sit back", even if I might still do a little working even after 60 - 62.

The list is based on professional and personal aspirations that I have deep passions about, which I associate such deep passions with being things that I'm "called to do" from God or the Higher Source.

Of course America (at least as it stands today) is one of the main nations where I could pursue these passions as based on the Declaration of Independence, I'm allowed to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I take this to mean that I'm free to pursue whatever I deem my God-given purpose is, or deep passions are, as long as I don't "tread" on the rights of others. Most countries don't allow humans this level of freedom, which means that most humans are BORN and DIE, without being given the "liberty" to pursue what they deem to be their God-given purpose.

So that's basically it. There's a process towards achieving these goals obviously and every day I'm aligned and working on achieving them. When it comes to women, I have established a timeframe by when I'm looking to find the "diamond or unicorn" that I can do some sort of legal relationship with such as creating a kid or two. If I don't find her for the most part by my early 40's and create the kids by my early 40's, that's a wrap in relation to that.

I am going to get a vasectomy, I didn't do it last year because I wanted to give it "more time" to keep looking for the girl I want. But I will do it in my early 40's, whether I've found her by then and created kids or not.
 

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Tenacity,

I agree with you that good decent men are getting screwed over every day. Even women who think they are "good women" have been so brainwashed by feminism and our culture that they don't realize how offensive and selfish they are.

I alluded to this in my last post, but didn't say it directly. But I will now. I believe there are still some decent women, but they are over a certain age. And, no, there aren't huge numbers of them, but there are some. I think the lowest age is around 45 or so. There was still some small vestige of decency and normalcy with regard to marriage and family life that they may have been exposed to. They are somewhat more common than a unicorn.

Under 45? It's a total train wreck. I feel for you younger guys. It really would be like finding a unicorn.

-Augustus-
Damn. You put the onus on the under 45ers. Like their moms said to multi date, always cheat on your man, have backup, and strip his balls quickly.
 

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Around here if you avoid women who have children out of wedlock, or had them but are now divorced single mothers, you just eliminated 98% of the dating pool.
Yes!

To even further complicate matters, I'm black and mainly date black women, so over on this side those single mothers usually have the kids by some guy that fits the thug/deadbeat/bum/criminal profile. So if you are going to date her, not only do you have to accept her kid(s) by this THUG....but you more than likely are going to have to deal with, fight with, etc., the THUG.

Since I've came on Sosuave I have called into light that this is one of the worse markets of women ever. I was immediately called out by others saying I'm too negative.

They called Trump's FACT-FILLED RNC speech "dark, negative, and depressing" saying that unlike Reagan's speech (It's Morning In America) Trump's speech is that it's "Midnight In America".

The reality is that most of my analysis is dark, negative and depressing, but it's very much MIDNIGHT in dating relations right now. There are a host of issues between Men and Women and we have a major Gender War going on out here that nobody wants to talk about.

Everybody wants to "think positive" with their positive affirmations, but the reality is that there is a major breakdown going on between men and women right now. Going forward, expect the following:

- Fewer and fewer marriages

- Higher divorce rates

- Higher numbers of single parents

- Increased populations of the Gay, Bisexual, Lesbian, Transgender Community

- Increased numbers of domestic violence between lovers, former lovers, or potential lovers
 

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Yes!

To even further complicate matters, I'm black and mainly date black women, so over on this side those single mothers usually have the kids by some guy that fits the thug/deadbeat/bum/criminal profile. So if you are going to date her, not only do you have to accept her kid(s) by this THUG....but you more than likely are going to have to deal with, fight with, etc., the THUG.

Since I've came on Sosuave I have called into light that this is one of the worse markets of women ever. I was immediately called out by others saying I'm too negative.

They called Trump's FACT-FILLED RNC speech "dark, negative, and depressing" saying that unlike Reagan's speech (It's Morning In America) Trump's speech is that it's "Midnight In America".

The reality is that most of my analysis is dark, negative and depressing, but it's very much MIDNIGHT in dating relations right now. There are a host of issues between Men and Women and we have a major Gender War going on out here that nobody wants to talk about.

Everybody wants to "think positive" with their positive affirmations, but the reality is that there is a major breakdown going on between men and women right now. Going forward, expect the following:

- Fewer and fewer marriages

- Higher divorce rates

- Higher numbers of single parents

- Increased populations of the Gay, Bisexual, Lesbian, Transgender Community

- Increased numbers of domestic violence between lovers, former lovers, or potential lovers
Tenacity...man do I feel you. I read a lot of the "anger" thread you posted and I feel empathy for you. I went through a period of anger, but after a year of meditation that went away. That morphed into an apathy and a depression-lite that I just can't seem to snap out of. The meditation helped with the anger, but it doesn't (or hasn't yet) cured the apathy - the ability to just "accept" this society for what it is now.

I can't stand women nowadays. My notch count is low because I don't cold approach at all anymore. The last two times I had sex were from escorts. Honestly why do I need to be rejected by a stuck up HB5 hoe who wouldn't isn't worth the 2 minutes talking to her? The only time I seem to go out of my way to talk to women now is when I'm traveling and staying at youth hostels. #1 I'm in a good mood because travel is a true passion of mine, and #2 staying in the hostels you have a chance to meet foreign women. I have met some very nice, feminine girls at these places that gave me a ray of hope. But I'm not going to up and leave my entire life in the USA to hunt for a girlfriend?

This apathy has spread to my career also. I haven't been able to keep a job for 20 months now and have been living on a savings account I accrued and a little side hustle (I never took a dime from welfare). My father was taken from me far too early and I don't have any older brothers, so I pretty much have zero male role models. I have 5 really good male friends I consider brothers, but none are a superior that can coach me as they have similar problems themselves. When you take the red pill it's not just about relationships, you come to despise the corporations underpaying us and stoking the societal wars.

Two jobs I lasted two days apiece and I tried to drive for Uber too, my hours went down 6 weeks in a row until I quit because I couldn't deal with stupid drunk girls. I figure what is the point of a 9-5 that you can't stand? It used to be a worthy trade off - you work that grind because you've got a wife and kids home who can't wait for you to get home. Now it's like Fight Club has become a reality for most guys. I get it, for many people the reason to go to work is if you don't you may not eat, but assuming your basic needs of food, clothing and shelter are not threatened, it's pretty goddamn hard to stay motivated.
 
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Tenacity...man do I feel you. I read a lot of the "anger" thread you posted and I feel empathy for you. I went through a period of anger, but after a year of meditation that went away. That morphed into an apathy and a depression-lite that I just can't seem to snap out of. The meditation helped with the anger, but it doesn't (or hasn't yet) cured the apathy - the ability to just "accept" this society for what it is now.
This apathy has spread to my career also.

To me the red pill would have been so much easier to handle had I not been either flat out lied to my entire life, or raised around a bunch of idiots that didn't know what the hell was going on....in my opinion it was a combination of both. Most people are STUPID about what goes on in this life and for the little they do know, they feel as though telling you "the truth" would either be too harsh, or telling you "the truth" would make you a competitor and they are either jealous and can't handle that, or they feel you are a threat to the little shyt that they do have.

The red pill doesn't stop at women. All the red pill is, is your introduction to critical thinking. Once you turn on your "critical thinking" brain, it's very difficult to turn that shyt off. So you now start analyzing and critically thinking over everything.......from jobs, to economics, to fitness, to politics, to debt, to employment v.s. starting a business, to taxes, to global NWO, to everything!

And you realize why only 6% - 15% of people are middle class! You realize why only about 10% of people are physically fit to the point of being able to see their abs! You realize why 20% of guys get 80% of the women! You realize why 20% of sales reps get 80% of the sales! You realize why 20% of business owners eventually succeed while the other 80% fail! You realize why 80% of people are living paycheck to paycheck!

Everything to this life is a system. A strategically crafted, system. To win, you have to first identify the game, then you have to get "a sit at the table" to play the game, then you have to learn the "rules" of the game, then you play the game. As you play the game, you get better and better at it....

Less than 20% of people will EVER get to this point.

The other 80% will be left doing the following:

- Praying to God, Jesus, or whomever their God is for answers. This is because whatever we as individuals/people don't understand, we always "pray" to God for direction even though God usually doesn't say anything back and we just continue to wander around not truly understanding anything.

- Left living paycheck-to-paycheck. If they miss a week of work, if they get a $700 emergency repair, etc., they are pretty much done.

- Stuck in bad personal relationships. From either a failed marriage (which you might still be in by the way and just living in hell), to having degenerate children, to having USER family members/friends, etc., most people today are bad people. Most people today are full of shyt. It's a result of a changing time.

- Being overweight. 90% of the bullshyt you read in the Fitness Community, Fitness Blogs, and Fitness Magazines are just that....bullshyt. That's why the Fitness industry is the highest its ever been but people are more out of shape/overweight today than ever before. It's because they teach people bullshyt fad diets, fad exercises, etc., without focusing on long term lifestyle changes.

I can go on and on, but to everyone reading this. No matter WHAT it is you are trying to succeed in, be it with a job, women, or fitness....try to identify the "game" first (the system). Then try to get a sit at the table, this is going to be the hardest part, because you are going to have to go around the VERY FEW/VERY SELECT group of people who are willing to expose the game to you without filter, without smoke and mirrors, and without bullshyt. From there, start playing the game and as you go along, you get better and better at it.
 

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Everything to this life is a system. A strategically crafted, system. To win, you have to first identify the game, then you have to get "a sit at the table" to play the game, then you have to learn the "rules" of the game, then you play the game. As you play the game, you get better and better at it....
"You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else." --Albert Einstein
 

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I can't stand women nowadays. My notch count is low because I don't cold approach at all anymore. The last two times I had sex were from escorts. Honestly why do I need to be rejected by a stuck up HB5 hoe who wouldn't isn't worth the 2 minutes talking to her? The only time I seem to go out of my way to talk to women now is when I'm traveling and staying at youth hostels. #1 I'm in a good mood because travel is a true passion of mine, and #2 staying in the hostels you have a chance to meet foreign women. I have met some very nice, feminine girls at these places that gave me a ray of hope. But I'm not going to up and leave my entire life in the USA to hunt for a girlfriend?
There is a reason Donald Trump switched back to Euro chicks after the failed Marla Maples experiment. He knows something that a lot of us don't. Maybe The Guess Who said it best in "American Woman" - "just get away ay..."
That's a great song to listen to when you're frustrated with women, btw. LOL - it's like our version of "I Will Survive"
 

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From the point of view of the human race, we need birth rates to fall. If women aren't available to most men then that decline will occur.
That's the silver lining to our current predicament.

In the UK, women (a couple of years ago) wouldn't have gone out with anyone who wasn't over 6ft tall and handsome. With a good paying job and a car to match. Women were either single or dating one of these men.
Now I see women dating ANY man. Short, average, nerdy, black\white it doesn't matter.
We still have the entitled class of women but I can see the societal cracks appearing. I strongly believe this phemonena is due to the government cutting welfare spending. Along with other cuts in the fiscal budget.
The cost of living is rising. Neither men nor women can survive alone in this environment. It makes sense to pair up and co-habit.
Right now London has a huge problem with homelessness. You don't have to go far from your home to see someone sleeping rough. At work I've seen a couple (man and woman) sleeping in a doorway for months on end.
Proof that hypergamy doesn't apply to all women.

I don't think the UK has stolen a march on the US. I think these changes are happening in the US, but it's not being picked up. Most people form their reality from their tv sets. Turn that off (or better yet throw it away) and look at what's going on around you.
 

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From the point of view of the human race, we need birth rates to fall. If women aren't available to most men then that decline will occur.
That's the silver lining to our current predicament.

In the UK, women (a couple of years ago) wouldn't have gone out with anyone who wasn't over 6ft tall and handsome. With a good paying job and a car to match. Women were either single or dating one of these men.
Now I see women dating ANY man. Short, average, nerdy, black\white it doesn't matter.
We still have the entitled class of women but I can see the societal cracks appearing. I strongly believe this phemonena is due to the government cutting welfare spending. Along with other cuts in the fiscal budget.
The cost of living is rising. Neither men nor women can survive alone in this environment. It makes sense to pair up and co-habit.
Right now London has a huge problem with homelessness. You don't have to go far from your home to see someone sleeping rough. At work I've seen a couple (man and woman) sleeping in a doorway for months on end.
Proof that hypergamy doesn't apply to all women.

I don't think the UK has stolen a march on the US. I think these changes are happening in the US, but it's not being picked up. Most people form their reality from their tv sets. Turn that off (or better yet throw it away) and look at what's going on around you.
Our TV sets are the biggest liars right now in the US. The Media is trying so hard (as usual) to get us to believe this or that, it's such bullshyt. The upcoming election will make them (and us) sink or swim. Either way, the press and government brought it on themselves. Most gals are still thinking "what's in it for me?" It's how they think. And that is their problem, not mine. Lol
 

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Steady Eddie,

So you're saying that you see consistent evidence that women in the UK are now dating men that they wouldn't date just a few years ago? And this Is because of the reduction of government entitlement spending (reduction of benefits a woman can receive from the government)? So now, out of necessity, they need to consider guys that aren't as physically attractive, but may have resources they need? If so, that's very interesting.

-Augustus-
 

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Honestly why do I need to be rejected by a stuck up HB5 hoe(?)
better question is why are you allowing yourself to be around HB5 hoes in the first place...
adjust the fine grain slew on your scope and set your low pass filter to full.
 
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better question is why are you allowing yourself to be around HB5 hoes in the first place...
adjust the fine grain slew on your scope and set your low pass filter to full.
I'm not. I don't talk to anything below a 6, ever. The point is the way the SMV market is set up now 5's are rejecting quality males.
 

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the point is, if, as you say, 5s are not on your radar, why do you care?

I see it too, funny how HB6/7 dont reject quality dudes tho...
 

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While doing a post mortem review in the aftermath of the break up of a 5 year relationship in December, I made a list of rules with regard to women and relationships.

I'm sure a lot of this has been posted elsewhere, but it was helpful for me to put it into a single document to review every now and then.

If the amount of Sex slows down significantly, it's over

If she stops making you a priority, it's over

If she starts taking you for granted, it's over

Don't spend more money on her than she does on you

Don't get into a relationship with a woman with small children

Look at what she does, not what she says

A woman always has an agenda

All the "I love you's" mean nothing if it's not demonstrated in her actions every day

Stop hanging on to "what used to be" or "how she used to be", Memories of what she was like when you first met and how awesome the two of you were in the beginning can keep you in an unrewarding relationship long after you should move on

Per Rollo: She will never truly appreciate the sacrifices you make for her


While it's nice to have the 10, the hot chick, in most cases her sense of entitlement is not worth it. She probably won't give as much as a 6 or 7

A woman who is 1 or 2 points lower on the SMV scale will probably make a better match for an LTR than a woman who is equal or greater on the SMV scale

No pvzzy is worth putting up with BS

Do not waste your time on a woman who is not really into you and lets you know it and shows it

Per Rollo: True desire cannot be negotiated

If you get involved with a woman who is not as affectionate as you, you will suffer in silence

If you get involved with a woman who has a lower sex drive, you will suffer in silence

Always remember that a relationship can end tomorrow

Your life and your happiness are more important than any woman, no matter how hot she is


Avoid getting into financial arrangements where you could wind up paying for past use of pvssy you no longer have

If she has deep seated insecurity or self esteem issues, it will plague your relationship

If she has a history of making poor decisions, but she now seems to have it together and says that she does, don't believe it

Avoid women who have had children without being married

Avoid women who have children from multiple Fathers

Avoid women who say that they were physically abused by their exes

If you're confused because her best friend is trashy or of questionable character, but your little snowflake isn't and you can't figure out why such a nice girl has a friend like that, you are probably wrong about the true nature of your little snowflake

Never tell a woman something that you don't want everyone to know

-Augustus-
+1 to all the bolded ones from personal experience.
 

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Know what you're getting into before diving in... most of the jacka55e5 on here will cry escalate, escalate! But, how many of them the with instigate prudence? You know... thinking before you act? It could save you a lot of heartache, in the long run. Or are we afraid of being called a prude?
I actually think its worth risking the dreaded fzone if it means you can screen in a detached and objective way...this is more likely in social circle situations of course. In other situations, you can keep the conversation platonic(assuming you have enough common conversational interests) for a longer period of time than normal to get a better feel for things.
 

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You're right about the ones who say their exes abused them. They usually really fked in the head, or horrifically twisted psychos. It always messed with my head how a bf, someone who you have consensual sex with, could abuse you? Dark stuff I wouldn't want to deal with again.

I've learnt that women appreciate a guy who isn't nice. Once you're labelled as nice, you're fked.
 

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What does it mean to take me for granted?
To expect a lot out of you and never show or reciprocate gratitude. So you will go out of your way using your time, resources and energy on her. She will suck it up like a black hole and never return the kindness. She may even be mean to you while you are treating her good.
 
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