Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction Patterns, do they really work?

[Guitar_Whizz]

Although I'm not a fan of recited patterns as such, I'm curious to know if this stuff works.

Has anyone tried out any SS patterns, and gotten success?

Do embedded commands REALLY have an effect on people? Or is it just horsesh*t? Ross Jeffries claims his method is the best (of course he'd say that).

I'm not gonna use patterns, but I was just wondering what the deal was with that sort of stuff, merely for my own curiosity.

 

[ChrizZ]

On naive, desperate suckers?

Yes.

On women?

No.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

why not try them and find out? Just think about what would happen if something as simple as changing a couple words in your vocabulary made you an even better seducer? I haven't experienced it yet but I can only imagine looking back a couple months from now and seeing speed seduction as a main contributor for that HB9 lying next to me in bed, still covered in post-coital sweat, with one arm draped over my stomach with her head resting on my chest.

I think SS/NLP works but you got to feel confident in it working in order for it to work

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Works on certain types. Usually the above average intelligent type that likes to mediate, analyze, think, loves story telling, loves being "induced" by words and tones. If she has a woo woo, new ageness about her, even better.

You can use it to build some confort, once you have gotten some attraction, as they'll be more willing to listen and think about what you are saying to them, and have point of reference/context. Since the words are only 7% of communication, she must be very focused and already motivated to listen to you.

Will not work on your typical bimbo, or club girly. We are in an A.D.D. society. You're better off playing some Justin Timberfruitcake stuff for them.

 

[Supremo]

Natural game owns all.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Natural game is a combination of confidence, communication skills, sense of humor, charisma.....ALL LEARNED SKILLS!!!! NLP patterns, reading up, building yourself, etc. are all learned skills. You are not "born" into being a natural.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

Short answer : Yes they work .

NLP is used for many other things . Im amazed from it . Ill start learning it , but not for getting women .

Here are some videos that tell you that NLP work for anything .

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f-TURhK90_8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg

 

[ready123]

patterns are rooted in hypnotism, which is what Bandler was trying to model when he conceptualized NLP. so yeah they work. but the game has evolved way beyond patterns and there are better things to focus on if you wanna get your game up

NLP itself though has pretty much embedded itself into the background of seduction. calibration, congruence, rapport, frame control, leading and pacing, all these were originally NLP concepts and now get thrown around regularly, especially by the natural gamers