Roosh V vs Simple Pickup, who would you rather rely on for advice?

[JackRobin]

Just checked out roosh's blog...

Seriously?

I'm underwhelmed. Haven't read his advice yet, I'm sure there some solid nuggets there, but man...why subject oneself to such heavy doses of negativity? Him b1tching about how women suck is hardly different from femcvnts b1tching about how much they hate men.

And a book How To Cheat On Your Girlfriend? Fwck that. I've followed SimplePickup's content closely enough to know that their, especially Kong's ideology resembles what I want to embody myself.

yup, full of negativity, his blog is not worth a read or anything like that, seriously, the guy attacks feminists and other people to get attention

he *****es about not being able to get laid in most developed countries, his forum will screw you up for life, very poor source of information

 

[floydb25]

yup, full of negativity, his blog is not worth a read or anything like that, seriously, the guy attacks feminists and other people to get attention

he *****es about not being able to get laid in most developed countries, his forum will screw you up for life, very poor source of information

Word. It's pretty easy to spot and avoid a bitter failure. The negativity is off the charts... Just pure venom. And its all based on the judgemental views of the person failing. No grey areas - just all bad. Not unlike the "American Women Suck" groups that are out there.

Granted, everyone is probably guilty of this - ****, I rant all the time - but some people take it to the extreme - with no positivity, hope, exceptions, personal responsibility, or uplifting advice at all. It's always someone else's fault, and they are perfect. Read between the BS, and that's what it comes down to. They just focus on the flaws on whomever they are hating - to indirectly justify their contempt towards them, and treating them like worthless objects. Never fails.

Many of them are also quite egotistical and conceited, and think they know everything / speak for everyone. They never take into account the things they could be doing wrong, either - just blame the object they are failing with for everything, and making it seem rational for them to hate them, and act as they do towards them - then blame them when they can't get their way with them.

Not different from any other abuser, really. That's all he is. An insecure, bitter ***** who sees only what he wants to see - based on his own flaws and failures - then comes up with his own irrational, all-or-nothing conclusions, and tries to convince himself and others that he's right - only to attack anyone who disagrees.

Granted, there is a lot of truth in negativity and ranting (see: music), but its greatly exaggerated, and based on the sole opinion of the person who's doing it, and the personal experiences they've had based on the kind of person THEY are. And that person is usually crazy and negative by nature (see: Axl Rose).

In the end, no one is completely innocent, and the more extreme and negative their views are - the more failures they have endured, and the more out of their ass they are speaking from.

He's no different from all the "nice guys" out there. They, too, are speaking from a complete failure's perspective, and coming up with their own BS theories based on that - while blaming the women for everything, deluding themselves into believing to be better than they are, justifying their horrible attitude towards them, etc - when they're the ones who suck at life, need to take responsibility for their own ****-ups, and stop crying about everything.

Of course, there are different variables at play, a lot of women do the same ****, etc. But there's definitely such thing as too extreme... Too bitter... Too whiny... Too negative. No matter how much they try to rationalize it, and seem calm and realistic about it - the hateful, failure-based undertone is always present... and clear as day. Otherwise, this would never be happening.

But again, we're all guilty of it to a degree. But he's quite extreme about it all. Thus, not worth listening to. I mean, in his "attractive value" assessment, he lists **** like being bald. Or how to spot a slut - with all these crap identifiers. Some are accurate, yes, but he takes everything too far, and lists every single possibility. AUWP! SHE BROUGHT UP SEX... SLUT!"

Damn idiots. But that's what bitterness as a result of failure does. Don't listen to them, and don't become like them.

I still say that Lewkis guy is worse, though

 

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He's no different from all the "nice guys" out there.

wtf are you talking about, ALL of these game sites now warn young men about the "icky" side of modern Western women, none of them advocate marriage or putting stock into only one etc etc.

No offence but it's you who sounds like a "nice guy", still too green to fully accept the negative side with the unicorns and rainbow side. If your displaying anger at Roosh warning young men of the pitfalls of "modern Western women" then it's you who still has some issues to work out and come to terms with, not Roosh.

 

[Plutoman]

Has anyone here read Roosh's books?

Honestly, he's got a lot of good advice. Yes, I'm going to defend him, because I've definitely benefited from his stuff. I feel like, if you are going to judge him harshly, read his books first. His books are very different from his blog, as they are very practically inclined, no negative, no positive, just practical advice.

Besides that, a few of his good blog links..
http://www.rooshv.com/the-roosh-program
http://www.rooshv.com/the-two-things-that-tight-game-comes-down-to
http://www.rooshv.com/11-signs-shes-a-keeper
http://www.rooshv.com/my-philosophy-on-life

 

[floydb25]

wtf are you talking about, ALL of these game sites now warn young men about the "icky" side of modern Western women, none of them advocate marriage or putting stock into only one etc etc.

No offence but it's you who sounds like a "nice guy", still too green to fully accept the negative side with the unicorns and rainbow side. If your displaying anger at Roosh warning young men of the pitfalls of "modern Western women" then it's you who still has some issues to work out and come to terms with, not Roosh.

Learn how to read. I said his views are too extreme and over-exaggerated to be taken seriously. I also said there's a lot of truth in negativity and ranting - they just take it too far. As well, that some of his views are accurate. But its too extreme. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be... Unicorn rainbow my foot up your ass.

I never said it's all wrong, there's no truth, women are perfect, or anything of the sort. ****, I rant about this stuff and advocate similar views all the time. But there needs to be a balance - otherwise its just hateful bitterness based on failure. Seen it time and again.

Successful people don't act this way, hold these extreme views, or see things from such a far-off perspective, and come to such irrational, judgemental conclusions - only losers do. And this guy has proven to be a loser who just judges everything from a distance - then acts like he's right about everything. And every topic is one-sided, as it fits his delusional viewpoint. He sees only what he wants to see as it suits his beliefs, and he dissects everything to match his perspective - based on what he experienced from being a FAILURE.

Again, just like that Lewkis dumbass.

Kthxgodieinafire. :nono:

 

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I never said it's all wrong, there's no truth, women are perfect, or anything of the sort. ****, I rant about this stuff and advocate similar views all the time. But there needs to be a balance

There is a balance you peanut, he's been writing books and guides on how to get laid for over 10 years.

Be a bit a retarded if I showed you how to get laid then left out any crucial information that goes beyond just getting my d!ck wet wouldn't it? Every man has a right to be given the low down on the cancerous blight that is feminism or the risks of Western marriage, hell he's not going to get it anywhere else is he? Plus if he's giving those fugly femcvnts conniption fits and they want his site classified as "hate speech" and shutdown (lol) then he has to be doing some kind of good surely.

 

[floydb25]

Fair enough. Haven't read all of his stuff, or even cared to. Just some of his articles here and there. But the underlying theme seemed the same. Oh well. He has his own ways. And it's not like it's going to change. You might hate a republican, and how they view things, but that's the way they are - and will continue to be.

Never been called a peanut before, though. Ha Ha. :moon:

 

[JackRobin]

It is sad that roosh has sent out some of his pawns to defend him on this forum, beyond sad actually. The whole forum is a joke and as is roosh, basically the motto of the forum is if you cannot get laid in a city of millions of people, MOVE.

Who the **** does that? You can't get laid in a country then move?

The whole place is a racist stormfront vibe kind of place, only thing is you have a lot of racist minorities there who blame a whole country for not being able to get laid.

The threads and posts are cringeworthy to read and not even worth a glance. Not to mention registration is on the first of every month and you get banned for about anything.

It is nothing more than a site full of mentally disturbed trolls and borderline serial rapists, worst pua forum on the internet, a lot of blog posts out there have attacked it.