"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Roosh spends 2 weeks in Canada, Can't Get Laid

spinaroonie

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Roosh in Montreal:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16956.html

The pressure of these flag missions is getting high. If I get the flag it's no big deal, because I'm supposed to. But if I don't, then that's a pretty big failure. I will admit that the pressure does drive me. My first month in Croatia there was no pressure since I knew I was staying long.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16956-post-290483.html#pid290483
Still trucking along. Day game is much easier in cafes than the street. Night is okay. The ratios aren't bad, but huge social circles are killing me.

I don't know... I think I've lived in EE for too long to enjoy this city. It feels like Sweden to me (but with thinner girls). Being an American really isn't a DHV, so my labor is quite high.

I'm also not used to the heavy intoxication level. Lots of girls can't keep it together, so the social circle babysits them. I was doing okay with a French girl last night, but she abruptly left to go puke. I pretended I didn't know her.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16956-post-295127.html#pid295127
She had a cute face but was really heavy. She was the biggest girl in the bar.

There are a lot of good looking girls though. It's mostly a matter of access. Lots of mixed set groups.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16956-post-295145.html#pid295145
Well I'm pretty aggressive/fast with my game so I doubt that's the problem. My sample size is also small (one weekend) so I don't want to make any grand conclusions. It just wasn't as easy off the plane as the US or Scandinavia.

I can't say being American helped.
They see the French culture as superior, so I felt it was more a hurdle (that I easily overcame) than a benefit.

I'm liking Canada overall, but it's very expensive. I feel I'm not getting much value for what I'm spending.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16956-post-297669.html#pid297669

Roosh in Toronto:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111.html

Tonight was a massacre.

Quality was lowest of all three nights, but it was most crowded.

I got ****blocked on 80% of my approaches.

I semi-suited up tonight. Still almost no eye contact.

5's are very thirsty. They smile and want to talk. They half-approach you.

The occasional 7 is open. You have to find her. If you do 5-10 approaches a night on 7s you'll find one that is down until you get ****blocked.

Are you guys getting ONS's in Toronto? I don't see it.

The social groupings are tough to crack.

Most girls are overweight.

I don't believe it sucks this bad for a city this big. The type of bars I went to should have open girls who want to ****. But girls are doing their thing and then they all hop in cabs. They seem to be more excited about eating after the bar than getting with dudes.

Montreal girls are hotter AND nicer AND easier to escalate with. Compared to Toronto it's poosy paradise.

I came here with an open mind, I swear, but it's pretty bad.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111-post-300815.html#pid300815
Another thing I noticed that if you utter one lame joke or say something that can be construed as sexist, the girl is disgusted and walks away. You need 100% perfect game, no mistakes. In the US I could get away with a lot more than in Toronto. It's almost like Scandinavia. Last night I said "I like feminine women" and the girl (a 6) got offended and went back to her huge group (at least six people).

At one point in the night I was standing in a packed bar and thought, "This is just pointless." Now I know what the PUAs I saw at Madison was approaching like monkeys. That seems to be what you got to do here.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111-post-301122.html#pid301122

It's 11:25. I've been ready to go out the past 30 minutes but I'm having trouble making it to the door. A man can only take so much abuse in one weekend.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111-post-301369.html#pid301369

I can say that girls in Montreal were slightly more impressed that I was American than girls in Toronto.

In Toronto they were more antagonistic about it, asking me about the presidential election. Two girls asked me who I was voting for, and before I could answer they said something to the effect of, "If you say ROmney, I'm walking away."

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-17111-post-301763.html#pid301763
So a guy whose dedicated all his adult life to picking up women can't get laid in 2 weeks in Canada.

How bad is Roosh's game?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I LOL'ed at the "If you say R o m ney, I'm walking away."

If you're American, a Canadian broad WILL bring up politics. (This has been my experience meeting Anglo-Canadian girls visiting the US. I have no experience with French-Canadians.)

The last one I fooled around with had to gave me her mandatory rant about George B u s h first.

I'm thinking to myself, "Honey, I want to F you, not debate you" lol.

I pretended to agree with her and then later sucked her t@ts and got a HJ lol.
 

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spinaroonie said:
How bad is Roosh's game?
Why does that mean his game's bad? Correlate a hard area with not knowing the right places and people, not knowing even the types of people around, with an unlucky streak. Seems reasonable enough to me.
 

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I live in Toronto , and women here are very masculine just like NewYork women , you rarely find a feminine woman . it is city of business most feminine women are housewives for rich men , while the women who are singles or single moms are suck , they play a lot of power games and think they are goddests , spend a lot of money to prove they are still young and dont have respect for men .
I am happy to read this article , because I thought some thing wrong with me .
and the funny thing woman over number men in Toronto by around 500000
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Vancouver sucks d!ck as well. Thats why I dont do bars and clubs anymore.
 

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I spent a month in Toronto 3 years ago and got plenty of *****.

Sure there are an above average number of ice queens. But there's also a ton of great girls. Guess this Roosh guy is just going to the wrong places.

I did go in the summer though. Maybe the cold weather turns every woman into a *****.
 
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