Roommate being a lazy fcuk

[thunder_god]

I've been having some issues with my roommate since I moved in with him in the fall. When we first moved in, we agreed that we were both clean and tidy people, however he turned out to be a pig. He makes a mess of the kitchen and stove and doesn't clean it up, and when he does, its half assed. Also he leaves onion skin all over the floor. He also hasn't kept up his end of the bargain for cleaning the washroom. I sent him a long a$$ texted about a month ago complaining about his untidiness after I came home one night and saw food everywhere all over the stovetop, kitchen counter, and onion peels all over the hallway while he went to bed, and he apologized and cleaned up but then he started being passive aggressive and complained about trivial things like the toilet seat not being put back up when its not in use to get back at me.


What do you guys think I should do? I don't want this to turn into something big over something petty like this but at the same time this mother****er only gives a $hit about himself and I feel like he's trying to grab frame here. I should also mention that I'll be staying at his stepfathers condo at a ski resort in February albeit sharing the place with 3 other classmates plus him but I'll be sleeping on the floor since he doesn't have enough beds. Wasn't really my idea to stay at his place btw.

1. I can either wash it and be done with him
2. half ass wash it with minimum scrubbing involved
3. tell him I'm away tomorrow and don't know when I'll be back and if the protein shaker is soaked in water, it should be fine till he gets back.

I also created a cleaning schedule today. I had told him 2 weeks back I would create it but due to exams I didn't have time. I'm going to have a long chat with him when I go over the cleaning schedule with him about what needs to be cleaned otherwise he's not going to clean it.

 

[backseatjuan]

Find a new roomate, batter a girl roomate, girls clean better. That way you don't even have to clean or cook.

 

[Tenacity]

I've found that girls can be just as messy and their cooking (while I'm not a chef by any means) tastes horrible. I'm a clean freak and I need privacy (as well as alone time), that's why I REMAIN SOLO in my living arrangements.

To the OP, you should try living solo. Ask yourself if more privacy, peace of mind, alone time, and a clean place from living solo is of higher value than the additional cost you are going to pay for your rent related expenses for living solo? If the value is HIGHER, then go solo. For me, man, nothing bets coming home to a clean apartment with all of the bells and whistles in that apartment, with extreme privacy, peace, etc.

I could probably save about $300 a month with a roommate on rent related expenses which is $3,600 a year but the elimination of the privacy, peace of mind, alone time, clean place, etc. is a loss MUCH HIGHER than $3,600. Those things are of such value they really don't even have a monetary value but if they did, it's much higher than $3,600 a year!

 

[Honda1990]

Find a new roomate, batter a girl roomate, girls clean better. That way you don't even have to clean or cook.

Sure, if she was raised in an environment that expected her to do such things. Women can be just as disgusting, if not worse, than men (especially if you share a bathroom). It all boils down to whoever was raised with good parents and actually gives a crap about themselves.

OP, the issue at hand isn't petty at all. He's flat-out disrespecting you and your space. I would confront him on this sh!t now; keep giving him inches and he will just keep pushing it. He didn't "forget to clean his shaker," he's just a lazy SOB. If you decide to clean his shaker, then don't even bother with the idea of a cleaning schedule. How are you going to enforce it? You'll have already shown that you're going to clean his mess up anyway.

It's only December and if you've signed a year-lease, then expect it to get much worse if you don't confront his bullsh!t now.

 

[backseatjuan]

Post on craigslist

"Looking for a gay fat pig for roomate. I'm leaving the country and someone needs to take my place. You get the room and my ex boyfriend, he's a hottie!!!"

 

[thunder_god]

Find a new roomate, batter a girl roomate, girls clean better. That way you don't even have to clean or cook.

Gee thanks for the suggestion. That thought never crossed my mind until now.

 

[thunder_god]

I've found that girls can be just as messy and their cooking (while I'm not a chef by any means) tastes horrible. I'm a clean freak and I need privacy (as well as alone time), that's why I REMAIN SOLO in my living arrangements.

To the OP, you should try living solo. Ask yourself if more privacy, peace of mind, alone time, and a clean place from living solo is of higher value than the additional cost you are going to pay for your rent related expenses for living solo? If the value is HIGHER, then go solo. For me, man, nothing bets coming home to a clean apartment with all of the bells and whistles in that apartment, with extreme privacy, peace, etc.

I could probably save about $300 a month with a roommate on rent related expenses which is $3,600 a year but the elimination of the privacy, peace of mind, alone time, clean place, etc. is a loss MUCH HIGHER than $3,600. Those things are of such value they really don't even have a monetary value but if they did, it's much higher than $3,600 a year!

Rent is atrocious here which was why I was forced to live with this guy. Believe me I would have preferred to live alone. My rent would have been double what it is if I didn't share a apartment with him. If I was working fulltime that would have been a different story but I'm on a tight student budget.

 

[thunder_god]

Sure, if she was raised in an environment that expected her to do such things. Women can be just as disgusting, if not worse, than men (especially if you share a bathroom). It all boils down to whoever was raised with good parents and actually gives a crap about themselves.

OP, the issue at hand isn't petty at all. He's flat-out disrespecting you and your space. I would confront him on this sh!t now; keep giving him inches and he will just keep pushing it. He didn't "forget to clean his shaker," he's just a lazy SOB. If you decide to clean his shaker, then don't even bother with the idea of a cleaning schedule. How are you going to enforce it? You'll have already shown that you're going to clean his mess up anyway.

It's only December and if you've signed a year-lease, then expect it to get much worse if you don't confront his bullsh!t now.

So what do you suppose I do then and how would you go about confronting this SOB about it? I already sent this guy a long ass text a month ago, and he wised up for a week but then went back to his old ways.

 

[thunder_god]

I think I'm going to go take a leak in it after I'm done washing it.

 

[Konada]

I'm going to go take a sh!t in it after I'm done washing it.

Fixed.

 

[Tenacity]

Rent is atrocious here which was why I was forced to live with this guy. Believe me I would have preferred to live alone. My rent would have been double what it is if I didn't share a apartment with him. If I was working fulltime that would have been a different story but I'm on a tight student budget.

Are you guys in one of those big cities like NYC? I'm in the Sterling Heights area of Michigan which is a suburb area, and I enjoy not only the peace of mind, low crime, good local economy, but the LOW cost of living.

You guys should look at relocating to other low cost of living states, I have a list I compiled for myself and these states in general include:

- Michigan
- Alabama
- Arkansas
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kansas
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Mississippi
- Nebraska
- Oklahoma
- Tennessee
- Texas
- West Virginia

Now, this is a generic view of the States, you still have to breakdown the individual city/town to make sure that city/town isn't higher in cost of living than the State average.

 

[thunder_god]

Are you guys in one of those big cities like NYC? I'm in the Sterling Heights area of Michigan which is a suburb area, and I enjoy not only the peace of mind, low crime, good local economy, but the LOW cost of living.

You guys should look at relocating to other low cost of living states, I have a list I compiled for myself and these states in general include:

- Michigan
- Alabama
- Arkansas
- Indiana
- Iowa
- Kansas
- Kentucky
- Louisiana
- Mississippi
- Nebraska
- Oklahoma
- Tennessee
- Texas
- West Virginia

Now, this is a generic view of the States, you still have to breakdown the individual city/town to make sure that city/town isn't higher in cost of living than the State average.

I live in Canada bro. A 1 bedroom apt will run me anywhere between $1200-1800 downtown.

 

[Tenacity]

I live in Canada bro. A 1 bedroom apt will run me anywhere between $1200-1800 downtown.

Yes, you have got to find a better cost of living area. The ONLY way I would recommend living in a higher cost of living area is if you are bringing in about double what you would make in a standard/low cost of living area.

So for example, for the SAME position, if NYC is going to pay me $100,000 for that position but the SAME position in Michigan only goes for $60,000 then the higher cost of living area makes sense as you basically get a trade-off with the higher salary.

But if you are going to make about the same in a higher cost of living area that you would make in a low cost of living area, then your expenses are too high.

A big part of financial success is not just focusing on the monies coming in, but efficiently managing the monies going out (personal expenses and tax reduction management), while simulating your investment accounts (IRA, HSA, 401k, Social Security, Pension Plans, Annuities, Mutual Funds, Business Portfolios, etc.)

 

[Honda1990]

So what do you suppose I do then and how would you go about confronting this SOB about it? I already sent this guy a long ass text a month ago, and he wised up for a week but then went back to his old ways.

Wow a long text? Hope it was filled with swear words and name-calling too!

Seriously, are you afraid to confront him face to face? Are you afraid that he might fight back? He only "wised" up to test the waters and gauge your reaction - and of course his laziness and disrespect returned because he knew you wouldn't do anything about it.

 

[logicallefty]

I live in Canada bro. A 1 bedroom apt will run me anywhere between $1200-1800 downtown.

Damn. I'm in the dead center of Illinois in the country ... I got a 3000 sq foot 9 year old house and my house payment is 1500. I thought we were one of the expensive places?

Op I have lived in your situation and learned the hard way that if a person is a slob it's really hard to get them to change. About the only thing you could do is write up a formal lease and put cleanliness in the terms of the lease and you both sign it. Then when they act like a pig and you repeatedly asked them to change and they don't then you can use the lease and legally kick them to the curb. Make sure you take pictures of their masses to prove that they're not following the lease.

 

[thunder_god]

I took a piss in their protein shaker today and just aired it out to dry. I also told them we're going to have a chat when they get back about the cleaning schedule I created. I now realize I was being too passive and should have tried to squash their behaviour when it first started. I figured since we were going to be living together for a year that it would be beneficial to be diplomatic and not start arguments but it seems that didn't work and I should have had a talk with them even if it meant getting into a fight. People out there will try to take advantage of your good nature and the only person that can help you is yourself so I need to learn to stand up for myself more often. Well at least I learnt a valuable lesson here and will know what to do in the future.

 

[backbreaker]

in the grand scheme of things, the roomate isn't even a really BAD roomate, he's just not a good one. I've had some **** tier one roomates. I had one roomate who did not see the problem with playing rap music as loud as he could at 5am in the morning every morning. I had a roomate that would literally, watch tv in the living room 24 x 7. didn't have a job, didn't work, and would even sleep on the couch. I had a roomate that would let his friends borrow my **** lol. and of course i'd never see it again.


I clean up after my wife. I mean, if you life with other people you are gonna have to accept that no one is going to fit you perfectly, people are going to have quirks and do things that irritate you. Spending a few mins in the evening having the house look like I want it to look, i can live with that in the grand scheme of things. IF they are earning their keep, helping with bills and stuff, as long as you wash your own ass I can / will deal with everything else. I don't like it, but in the grand scheme of things it' snot the biggest of deals

 

[Bible_Belt]

Damn. I'm in the dead center of Illinois in the country ... I got a 3000 sq foot 9 year old house and my house payment is 1500. I thought we were one of the expensive places?

You are. That house would be worth about half as much if you were down south in Illinois like I am.

I live in one of my grandparent's rentals. It's a ten year old trailer, 1500 sf, 3/2. My back yard is about 80 acres. It is actually a lot nicer than a lot of houses I have lived in, especially since I gutted and replaced a lot of the interior. Not that I pay rent, but it would bring about 500 a month, maybe 600. It is enough space for a family of 4-5 to live very comfortably.

By comparison, I've heard that RV parking spaces in the fracking boom areas of North Dakota are now going for $800/mo.

 

[om1xr]

it's really mind blowing how most people cling to what's familiar and comfortable either if what they are clinging to is a bad or good thing, a thing of the past, present or the future based on their own perspective.

and they try to avoid change like they avoid death but the paradox is that change is the only real thing in this spinning dirt ball.

until you are able to step out of your comfort zone and be selfish by putting yourself first you are going to suffer because your first duty is make yourself happy and if you are happy everything is going to sound/feel/be awesome.

most problems just need a simple shift in your mindset.

 

[Tenacity]

I took a piss in their protein shaker today and just aired it out to dry. I also told them we're going to have a chat when they get back about the cleaning schedule I created. I now realize I was being too passive and should have tried to squash their behaviour when it first started. I figured since we were going to be living together for a year that it would be beneficial to be diplomatic and not start arguments but it seems that didn't work and I should have had a talk with them even if it meant getting into a fight. People out there will try to take advantage of your good nature and the only person that can help you is yourself so I need to learn to stand up for myself more often. Well at least I learnt a valuable lesson here and will know what to do in the future.

I had to learn this the hard way. Always put yourself first, forget the "Christian" principles of turning the other cheek and treating your neighbor as you wished they treated you.

People today (family especially) will not just walk all over you, they will run over you and then come back to your run down body and take a piss on it.

You have to put your standards in life first while being reasonable, and if people can't meet those standards or at least meet you somewhat halfway, screw them.

This life is short anyway.