"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"Romantic Rivalry" ??

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iqqi said:
You guys give me no credit.
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I don't know how you look (as for MEN, looks are very important). You said you are attractive...but guess what...I hear a LOT of women say the same thing and at most...they are just average.

I think he got her # to get to me. Because I am just overly ****y like that.
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He got her number because he wanted to get laid. And he choose her over you.

He'd be an idiot to pass me up.
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Why? There PLENTY of women out there. What do you bring to the game? You are argumentative and a know it all. You claim you are hot (but are you?). And you hang out with people that are immature or have shady past.

He hasn't called her, by the way.
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Are you keeping track of his/her phone log?

In my experience, men who are trying to ONS a chick, call her the same night they got the #, but he did not.
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Not really. For all we know...he and his buddy met a couple of HOTTER women in the other place.

Could be he went with her hesitation, could be my last parting comment reassured him that HE was who I was interested in, could be a few things.
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Listen...he had no issues asking for a # of a woman he JUST met. If he would have been interested on you...he would have asked for your number a LONG TIME ago.

We are perfect for each other! It is destiny!
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I say...he is going to end up phucking your friend BEFORE he considers you. If he was "wow" by you...he would have not even bothered with your friend. At best...you and her are interchangeable in his eyes.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Latinoman said:
I don't know how you look (as for MEN, looks are very important). You said you are attractive...but guess what...I hear a LOT of women say the same thing and at most...they are just average.



He got her number because he wanted to get laid. And he choose her over you.



Why? There PLENTY of women out there. What do you bring to the game? You are argumentative and a know it all. You claim you are hot (but are you?). And you hang out with people that are immature or have shady past.



Are you keeping track of his/her phone log?



Not really. For all we know...he and his buddy met a couple of HOTTER women in the other place.



Listen...he had no issues asking for a # of a woman he JUST met. If he would have been interested on you...he would have asked for your number a LONG TIME ago.



I say...he is going to end up phucking your friend BEFORE he considers you. If he was "wow" by you...he would have not even bothered with your friend. At best...you and her are interchangeable in his eyes.
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LOL. He's right!
 
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If you were Iqqi's friend would you tell her the guy called and they are hooking up?

Look how p!ssed she is imagine if Iqqi found out her crush called her friend and they went out.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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If he would have been interested on you...he would have asked for your number a LONG TIME ago.
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This is a good point.

You know, he could just be too shy to ask for iqqi's number. Oh wait, he asked for iqqi's friend's number, so we can scratch that idea.

I think it's funny how we've exhausted all these possibilities, but yet iqqi still doesn't want to believe that Mr. Crush isn't interested in her.

Something tells me that iqqi's friend is smoking hot.

But of course, Mr. Crush has nothing to do with anything that transpired. He's a victim of being seduced by iqqi's friend. She put a magic spell on Mr. Crush that caused him to ask for her number, so it's all iqqi's friend's fault.
 
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Maybe Iqqi should just give him her damn number. Why can't a woman ask for a number? If a hot woman asked for my number I'd be flattered and call her and take her out.

Maybe you all can have a threesome and everybody is happy.
 
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LOL!

You guys are all so negative.

Just to clear something up, I wasn't playing hard to get at all with this guy, I just wasn't overtly coming on to him. I put myself in his area, and he came to me. I encouraged, and flirted.

I already explained why my girl friend is easy, yes, so I'm not going to get into that again. However, I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt on this situation, since I already spoke up about it and let her know. I will be keeping my eye on her.

We are both attractive, she has some extra points, so do I. However, I tend to get more interest from men.

She has said that she thinks men are intimidated by me.

I'm not going to go after this guy, especially after he got my girl's number. I will just see what happens. In the meantime, life will go on for me! It isn't that serious. AND I already know I will see Crush guy again, and when I do, communications have been opened.
 
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iqqi said:
LOL!

We are both attractive, she has some extra points, so do I. However, I tend to get more interest from men.
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Let me be the judge. Post pictures of her and you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Yes and of course you don't fall into either category because you have a vagina and your presence here is a gift.

Thank you, thank you very much. :rolleyes:

I believe it would be hypocritical for the mods not to require iqqi to post her age but do so for everyone else. She is not special, folks. It's either a rule that's adhered to OR it's not and we should stop requiring anyone to put their age up.
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Look, a lady never tells her age. ;)

The mods know how old I am. They know I am over 25. Same as with Fingz, and Pook, and others who have been around forever, but don't use a numerical age. And I do have something in my age area on my user profile. I also have an avatar. ;)

You are harping on non issues, for what reason I don't know. Sike yes I do. SOMEONE's always STARTIN' something. If it aint one thing its another. If the mods want me to change what I have listed as my age, I will, however ... I COULD LIE! (Scary violin music)...

I think its fine that they just KNOW I have been in my 20's since 03 which would make me at least 25.
 
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If a mod could remove the bickering that has nothing to do with this actual thread I'd really appreciate it. We actually have a 9 page thread that has STUCK to the thread topic, (until recently), and I am PROUD!!! :Beaming:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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